Thanks I forgot about magnesium I occasionally will buy that but I forgot about it. There is a brand called calm that is powder you mix with water and it’s just magnesium and it’s like 70% of your daily value or something. I used to take Benadryl years ago And it worked but then after some time it started giving me a really bad restless legs so I don’t take that anymore. It’s taken me years to realize that insomnia sucks but realistically it sucks more if you just lay in bed and think and toss and turn so I’d rather just find something to do until I’m tired enough to go to sleep and if I don’t go to sleep then I’ll just be extra tired tomorrow night hopefully. These problems today are better than the problems I used to have that’s for sure
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Trev, look into l-tryptophane. It’s a natural anime acid, not a medication, and it gets you to sleep. From my experience also you don’t get used to it like melatonin. Sweet dreams, hope you not too tired today (I am) 
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I literally was just looking at that earlier on google! There is a health food store that has it. I like that it’s an amino acid. I think I read that it’s a precursor to melatonin or some thing whatever that means. I’ll definitely have to look into that more but I’ll probably get it because it’s fairly cheap and not addictive or mind altering. I definitely know that I am not sleeping tonight so I’m just going to make the best of it. Thank you very much
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Get it. I got mine in the powder form on eBay - super cheap but tastes like ass. You won’t regret it tho and it’s absolutely harmless unless you take a huge overdose then you can get serotonin syndrome and you might die. So look out for that. Otherwise it helps me to get to sleep every time. I think in all the years it failed me once cos I was just beyond w the anxiety.
You can override the sleepiness it causes so you will still have to put the phone away, calm down etc, all the usual stuff.
Also for y’all w the magnesium make sure its actually bioavailable which most products somehow aren’t and are simply a rip off. You want the magnesium citrate. 
Edit ah now I read the sleeplessness is to do w mania - gosh Trev, try it but obvs could be the tryptophane is just not strong enough to counter that. 
let me know how it worked out for you. I’m sorry you’re having an episode. Any other symptoms or are you well medicated? Much love and support your way my man.
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I completely understand about just finding something to do. I have read full novels purely thanks to insomnia lol. I used to sometimes clean too but avoid it now because apparently cleaning the house in the middle of the night makes it hard for others to sleep 
Tonight is what I like to call one of my reverse insomnia nights . I fell asleep fine at a reasonable time but now I’m wide awake a few hours later
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Thanks for reaching back. I know about serotonin syndrome I had that happen once and I’m not gonna get into specifics but it was not a good experience and basically taking a bad combination of things while on medication and I didn’t know.
As far as the magnesium I’m pretty Sure the brand calm That I occasionally buy that is a powder you mix with water is the type of magnesium you’re talking about.
The tryptophan is worth a shot. I’ve been dealing with the bipolar since as young as I can remember maybe six or seven but I didn’t understand it when I was younger. I don’t have the depression kind I’m either normal or I’m manic. with medication I still have manic episodes sometimes but they are nowhere near as bad and I don’t end up hospitalized or I don’t have paranoia or get in trouble like I used to. I just sometimes can’t sleep for two or three days or I have excess thoughts and ideas. It’s hard to explain but to be honest I’m pretty much used to this and it’s pretty normal. It’s partially the reason I got into the liquor and opiates because it was my way of feeling regular But that’s not a solution anymore. I’ve tried 1 million medication’s and the one I’m currently taking has the least amount of side effects and doesn’t make me tired during the day. There was so many medication’s over the years where I couldn’t even hold a job because I was exhausted like literally drugged. It doesn’t solve all of the problems but it takes care of the majority of the mental health issues. And it’s fairly cheap so I’m grateful.
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Thanks for responding.. I know what you mean about getting to sleep just fine but then you wake up a few hours later that’s pretty annoying as well but at least you’re getting a little bit of sleep that’s the way I look at it. It took me so many years to realize that if I know that I’m not going to sleep and I can tell I am wasting my time just tossing and turning and then I’d rather just get up and do some thing. I think insomnia can be different for everybody but my type of insomnia makes it to where I can still function without sleep I’m not saying it’s easy and I’d rather get sleep but it’s like tonight I’ll just stay busy and maybe I’ll get a couple hours and maybe I won’t. Luckily I’m off work tomorrow or today Because it’s already 3 o’clock in the morning. Would I like to be sleeping right now definitely but like I said I’m trying to remain grateful because these problems are nothing compared to what the problems were 15 months ago
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the waking up in the middle of the night and spending a few hrs awake for me gets greatly helped if i dont drink coffee in the second half of the day. sounds funny but it took until this year for me to find that out.
I know hypomania from myself and also severe depression also means insomnia for me so I feel for you. the attitude with which you’re taking all this is admirable. me too, I am always happy I can manage th depressive episodes and can function, I dont moan about things like sleeplessness (this thread don’t count) cos I know there is so much worse for me. I really see that attitude in you also, where the experience of bad in the past makes you overall appreciative and optimistic now. even if things aint exactly peachy. 
to stay on topic I’m up at my desk working after 4,5hrs of sleep. mostly just glad I have a desk and glad I have a head to work with! 
have a nice day and night y’all
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People who don’t think about their dog’s paws 
Yesterday at the river walk there was a man walking with his dog on the hot black pavement. I had already walked on the same pavement hours earlier and burnt my feet. I can’t imagine how bad that poor dog’s paws were feeling.
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I HATE that. It’s so hot where i live this time of year and it’s literally infuriating for me when people care so little about their poor dogs’ wellbeing. You literally walk your dog for their benefit. FRO.
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I’m bipolar 1 myself, so I can relate to this. Fortunately, I have a non-addictive sleep med I use that works well, and there’s no carry-over into the next day. Have you ever tried Trazodone?
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Yeah I was given that medication in detox a couple times but it actually kept me awake even when I tried to lay down right away it had the opposite effect I think that I’m really sensitive to any kind of medication that is related to anti-depressants. I know this is temporary and my sleep schedule get back to normal. I managed to get a few hours last night. Like I said in previous post I’m just grateful I’m not having more severe symptoms like I used to have because honestly I wouldn’t have this much time sober or be able to maintain employment without medication and also alcoholics anonymous. That’s just facts
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Where I live there’s constant people who drive by with cars like that and the worst ones that backfire drives me crazy and insane! I hear you here! Ever heard the phrase peace and quiet is a necessity! They all can just FRO!!!
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I don’t know people here very well about addictions and if this is true for you please don’t take this to heart. I don’t have bipolar, however I suffer from extreme insomnia. I have tried every medication in the book to help me and the only medication that works for me is called Clonidine, however this medication is a controlled substance and can be addictive. I don’t have that issue so I am allowed to take this medication. I don’t wake up feeling like I have hangovers. I hope I don’t offend anyone with this post.
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People who come over to my house and complain about my dog being on the couch can FRO. He lives there. His house his rules.
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For real. I would let my dog to do surgery on me if he could hold the instruments. Definitely he can be on the couch.
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I feel like dogs have more of a right to the couch than the humans do. And that’s pretty crazy that somebody would come to your house and complain about that. That definitely can FRO
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Thank you. I have a doormat that says “dogs welcome, people tolerated” so anyone coming in should know what they’re getting into. And ultimately it’s my house. He doesnt bother anyone. It was kinda wild. Thanks for your support.
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This is wild. Maybe he can’t read?? Ppl who don’t love animals in general can FRO.
My own one: office ppl mentality. Hear me out. I’m 100% sure a lot of office working ppl do great work and enjoy their work and don’t slack. Given. This is not about these many ppl.
But. There’s this thing with some ppl who work in offices where they begin to treat life like an office where no one’s actually checking your work. Where you can just always make a new deadline, just do things half assed, answer emails when you feel like it, be sick half the time, just, low work ethic.
My secretary at uni sent my private request towards her for info re reimbursement carelessly to our entire department. It had other questions from me also in the email trail. I was absolutely mortified. Not only didn’t everyone know I have an assistant job w our very popular Prof (whom I adore) because I’m very private and didn’t tout it around, nor did my Prof know I needed reimbursed for something work related and that’s how he found out. He had some questions and was not amused. He means a lot to me and I do a lot for the v good relationship that we have so this absolutely sucked. Thankfully after I explained he said it was totally ok and I didn’t fuck up. But I’d rather he didn’t need to read his name and money requests in strange emails being forwarded to everyone at the institute. O.O This is not the first time my contact w our secretary is less than satisfying but this was the worst. Even if it didn’t come out too damaging, it was still a breach of trust and data breach and ofc I didn’t get an apology for it or anything.
So office ppl syndrome, half assing your way through life 
FRO
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