While not particularly offensive to me, this is a fine example of an “acceptable” form of racism in America. Certain stereotypes are still played on, by comedians for instance, and in common speech. It does behoove us to recognize that these stereotypes or characterizations are rooted in traditions that were acceptable at one time in the dominant culture. America is less white, less Protestant, and less male dominated as time goes on. We are making some important changes, recent examples include names and mascots of sports teams. My favorite baseball team, from Cleveland, will always be my favorite, but I can no longer support the keeping of a name that, though at one time was meant to honor native Americans, has become a point of contention and another example of institutionally acceptable racism. The same thing is true of this type of expression - it has become part of the institutionally accepted racism.
This isn’t political correctness, it’s about the incorrectness that becomes acceptable by loud and repeated usage.
And apart from making me question if I am being overly sensitive and grandiose on either side of this issue, the phrase doesn’t have anything to do with sobriety. And we have successfully derailed the intention of the original poster. She is expressing trepidation about her second pregnancy, seemingly some anxiety over it. So, @ashleynrbaer, my apologies for the politicizing of this thread. If a mod wants to split some of this off to the derailment void, that would be a logical outcome.
Keeping this on the public derailment void as the conversation has remained civil.
It is not a phrase I was familiar with, but reading the info around it reminded me of the inequalities and issues that led to ‘the troubles’ and all the tragedy that went with that. Not something I have to live with in my day to day but I know for many it still is.
What a neat way of putting it! I would also add that it is not a value judgement on anyone who has used the phrase without malicious intent.
A good reminder that we are people from all over the world with different perspectives - what a wonderful opportunity we all have to learn about those things.
I have come to learn that just because I don’t find something offensive doesn’t mean it isn’t offensive. It just means that I’m not aware that it could be offensive.
I am learning. And now I’ve learned that the term Irish Twins is offensive to some people and I will no longer use it,
We can all make a choice as to whether we are offended by anything at all.
I mean it’s a a short life why get offended at all?
Some of the names people get called in military service is quite offensive, the time to worry is when you aren’t being called them!
It seems these days that people seem to pick and choose what offends them, whatever’s fashionable it seems.
I’m sure, had Conor not been a bit under the weather due to his own issuas it would have gone a totally different way.
This is obviously my personal thoughts and I do not mean to offend anyone.
I’m a firm believer in " live and let live" it’s a shame that more people are not the same
Right I’ll crawl back in my cave!
I suppose for a big part that’s true. But say someone were to call you a worthless piece of shit and you get offended, does that make you not humble? If so, is it possible to be 100% humble?
I see. My defenition for humble must have been off. I’d say that I have the ability and am very open for the truth, yet still I get offended easily? I’m looking too much into it aren’t I?
As I said above, in the military it’s when they stop calling you a "worthless piece of shit " is when you have to worry.
That’s when you lie awake at night waiting to be jumped with the shoes in pillow cases etc.
We will all have different views on what’s offensive. I do think there’s a difference between someone saying something is offensive, and them actually getting worked up about it. While it can be a choice to get offended, it also a choice of whether to post offensive stuff, and also how to respond when something is called out as offensive.
I agreed with the flags because I can see why it would be offensive. It seems others find it offensive that some people are offended… I do kind of enjoy the irony in that but it also gets a bit tiresome in its never-endingness.
I made the call, I stand by it, I’m leaving it at that!
As always if anyone has any issues with a moderator call they can message @moderators and someone else will pick it up for review.
Probably the bullying, the abuse from my dad and youth. No benefits on being offended. But I can’t really change my emotions can I? If that’s possible it will break my brain that already is incompetent when it comes to emotions lol
