Discussion of guns on the forum (tw)

Yeah, I’m surprised how much I’ve learned already

I agree with @SassyRocks to the 5th degree. I’ll repeat what I said earlier. The issue is being discussed amongst us and when a reasonable conclusion is agreed upon (along with the input of Robins), we’ll act accordingly.

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You’ve made your point, Capitan. Let it go.

Here in Scotland we dont have guns just like the rest of uk , ive no interest in guns but if someone here had a relative or a friend gunned down . i know in the states its a way of life like when i go to Spain i dont go to the bull ring as i dont like what happens to the bull , Like china they eat dogs , just ban pic of guns like shirts on ,

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Thank you for your input, Ray. We appreciate it. I wouldn’t want to see bulls being speared neither man. I have a soft spot for animals, rodents and insects. I remember trapping a field mouse in mom’s house. I put it in a bag, poked holes in the bag and threw it in the trash. It escaped and returned to cause pandemonium and mayhem. My mom was pissed with me :joy::skull::joy:

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12 posts were merged into an existing topic: Derailment void / Off topic 2021

Some food for thought…
Does posting/seeing gun pics on this forum honestly advance anyone’s sobriety? Isn’t sobriety what we’re all here for?
The fact that this topic is creating so much negative discussion is an indicator of how useful guns are on this forum.

Have your guns in private, for all I care. But why do you need them here?

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I think someone was trying to get us all riled up.
It’s working perfectly.
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It is what it is. It’s better we do this now than later on down the road IMO.

Weighing in. As someone from a country where firearms are prohibited/ strictly regulated, I understand the unease about guns. For me, there is a strong association between guns and violence because of the culture I come from.

However.

For some people gun ownership is an important (and legal) part of their life. Allowing them their own space on the forum, clearly defined and easy to avoid, is not the same as glorifying guns.

There are loads of topics discussed here all the time which really aren’t much to do with sobriety. Including lots which are triggering (e.g. food, body image). The general feeling on these is, if they are clearly marked and easy for those who want to avoid the subject to do so, what’s wrong with letting people build connections around a topic which is a part of their lives? That’s how I try and approach the gun issue anyway.

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It’s an interesting and hot topic indeed,

However there is two sides of it,

For those who have experienced gun violence or had a family member experience it my condolences

However I been handling firearms since I was about 10 years old, I grew up around guns, was in the military and worked in a career which requires a firearm

Personally If I’m working a site that requires armed I usually don’t post a selfie if I do, it’s not visible. I have been a gun enthusiast my entire life, & used to do competition shooting, I never went hunting nor went down the block looking for a problem while carrying a firearm

Likewise I will always have a discussion with pro and anti gun people if it’s an informative discussion that doesn’t get out of control with personal attacks etc. while we all have our opinions or values, I think values should be based on an educated opinion and facts, not a just because

As far as the forum, like other threads can be triggering, this one can be as well. So it gives us two options remove all triggering threads, foodies, selfies, etc. or use the right to mute

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That’s possible already, by sending a personal message. You can add as many people to that as you like.

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I’ll shoot off my opinion. I don’t think that guns belong on the forum either, though not for some of your same reasons. Yeah, it’s not a sobriety topic, but there are dozen’s (maybe even hundreds) of non-sobriety related topics on here that don’t build anyone’s sobriety whatsoever.

It does irritate me mildly that people feel they must make every space they enter a safe space. The world isn’t a safe space. I’ve found triggering material on the forum. What was my response to it? I ignored, unfollowed, and avoided those topics. Why? Because my sobriety and mental well-being is my own responsibility. If you see a topic that doesn’t look like a topic you will agree with, why are you clicking on it?

Again, I’m not anti-gun (I don’t own any either). Guns can represent many things: violence (sure), but also recreation, protection and other things. But, I see them as being potentially devisive, which is why I’d vote to not allow them.

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I’m just here for the notifications.

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Hats off to the three of you @carlito2 @Fury and @DungeonMaster . Wonderful input to this discussion.

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I don’t think he was being sarcastic. I thought your comment was well thought out and valid.

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I don’t follow you on the sarcasm. Did I miss something? I’ve been known to have a stupid monent or two.

Edit: Ah, misunderstanding. I’m sincere in what I said man. I don’t jest with these things.

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Water under the bridge, Carlito ^.^

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It was moved off that particular thread as off topic but the conversation you wanted to have is very much happening! No one is asking anyone to shut up :thinking:

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You won’t lose me over it, Salty. I’m on a different lvl ^.^

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