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The keeping it discreet thing is a flag. Not an attractive flag. Red flags are can be fun. Like oh shit, she’s crazy, but she’s fun! She can keep up with me drinking was a fun red flag until it wasnt. lol.

That flag is kinda creepy, like he is manipulative. Its like both end of the spectrum. Talking relationship, but being sneaky. It doesn’t add up.

I don’t think you sound conceited. You just know what you want.

I’ve wasted enough of my time in dead end relationships. I’m done. Ignoring red flags doesn’t bring long term happiness. Its just another form of instant gratification. It leaves me feeling hollow when its over.

When I stayed sober for a long time, I was following suggestions because they were working. I followed the no relationship suggestion for a year too. I ended up falling for a bucket of red flags at 18 months sober. It was the biggest mistake I’ve made. I was dumb enough to marry and have kids with her too.

Now I have 18 months again. I just haven’t met anyone I want to date. I was seeing someone when I quit drinking, but that’s a dead end relationship waiting to happen. I let it go. Shes been trying to spark it back up again. I haven’t been biting.

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Aren’t there any whiteboards???

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:joy::joy::joy: I can’t do you Paulie. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Looks like I haven’t met anyone I want to date either haha. Man, a year ago I would have dived head first into that big old bucket of red flags.

I told him the discrete thing was just super shitty.

He just emailed me and seeing his name was annoying. I’ll work through that for the $$$$ :joy::joy::joy:

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All is good and I’m going into work late today because my belly does not want to cooperate with me. Plus, I want to make sure I get my little lifting session in as well. I have a set of weights at the office as backup, but I’m usually so busy I don’t get a chance.

I’m spending the day with Italian guy tomorrow. I’m trying to get us in for a meeting with a particular economic development director, but no word yet. I’ll call him today.

As for Italian guy, I’m simply going to say that anything he does not want disclosed about this relationship should not happen. I refuse to do anything that has to be kept a secret. How horrible for my self esteem would that be if I allowed it! However, self esteem is what made me tell him to fuck off in the first place. Another reason I love being sober.

Here is the really, really strange part. I have an abnormally high sex drive. He was very aggressively groping me, and really invading my body with his hands. Trying to take my clothes off. Trying to take his off. Just doing really personal things that made me so uncomfortable I almost started crying. It would have been totally fine if I knew him better. I won’t get into details as it would 100% be a trigger warning. I’m angry at myself for not completely shutting it down. That was weak and what the old Beth did. My body was for men and not for me. I never had the choice. Today I do, and I still let myself do something that was making me scared. I was being polite. Why??? He sure as shit wasn’t.

Anyway, so now not only has my sex drive completely disappeared, if I see people being intimate on TV it makes me so uncomfortable that I have to look away. I have molestation, sexual assault, and two rapes in the old portfolio. I’m wondering if it triggered any feelings about those? I’ve never had any emotional attachment to them before.

All I know is that I’ve not been in a great mood this week. I feel a darkness over me when I think about this guy. I now see him as a predator and not a business partner.

I didn’t realize this until yesterday actually, so I’ll bring it up in therapy tomorrow.

My vow to myself is to not let him touch me at all. Even if it means losing out on the business he was planning to bring to the table. It’s not worth how I feel.

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Interesting week… I kept my conversations with Mr. Suave to a minimum. I saw him Friday for work and he said he missed me a lot, he didn’t want to bother me because I hadn’t called or texted him. Ok?

Anyway, he tried again and I shut him down. I don’t need a man in my life, and if I were to be open to it, it most certainly would not be a friends with benefits situation. Especially in this particular situation, it would make me feel like a prostitute due to the financial gain.

I’m still kind of sideways about my 15 year old’s Mother’s Day Instagram posts with her step mother. They are doing all they can to delete me like I never existed. If it were the other way around, the wrath I would face from my ex would be terrifying. I’m learning to hate him, and don’t worry, it’s a good thing according to my therapist. I’ve always made his abuse ok and tried to be the bigger person. All that did was destroy my self worth.

I sent a long text to my daughter last night and heard back this morning. She apologized for the delay, but she was at her band awards ceremony. Yet another function nobody bothered to tell me about. I’m so fucking hurt. I could sue, I could demand notification of all the things they do that break the separation agreement, but that would not be in HER best interest. She’ll be driving in less than a year and I’ll be able to see her more often. I’m still going to insist that we have the integrity talk when I see her.

I guess that’s mainly what’s going on. I have my SC broker exam tomorrow so I can run my brokerage out of SC. I’ve been licensed there for almost 4 years, but went inactive this last year until I could open my own SC Firm.

Of course I waited until about 9pm last night to start studying :woman_facepalming: It’s mostly residential real estate questions which I know nothing about. I’m a commercial real estate broker, so I have a little bit of refreshing to do. It’s completely day and night. Completely different fields. So, wish me luck. I also forgot that I don’t think I have a calculator. However, the math is simple enough that I can do it in my head or the old fashioned way with pen and paper :grin:

Happy Sunday beautiful sober peeps :heartpulse:

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Hey Beth, you know there’s a calculator app on your phone…?
Sounds heartbreaking with your daughter, hopefully as she gets older and has less influence from her dad and step mum she will reconnect closer with you x

*edit. Just realised your post was like 8 days ago so the calculator suggestion is kinda useless now :joy:

Haha. It’s all good. They don’t let us have a phone during the test. Very strict. Not even water, or your own pen, they pat you down like a damn criminal, it’s so silly lol. They do let us have a silly little calculator, like the little solar kind.

It went to complete shit with my daughter. Worse than I could have imagined. It was good right until the end. I’m studying for another test tomorrow, so I’ll have to update tomorrow night. Lots of crying last night. I’m so over the bullshit. My ex and his wife are terrible people :pleading_face:

**** I am going to lose my mind with autocorrect lately :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: Constantly having to edit the stupid shit my phone outputs. I literally watch it change a correct word to something stupid. Why?!?!? ****

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Awww no, wish I could give you hugs!! It’s soooo hard to let go of who and what we can’t control, esp when it comes to our kids :sweat::sob: know it’s not the same but sending you virtual hugs today and good luck for your exam xx

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I really need to update here, but Mr. Italian Stallion is really starting to get to me. The chemistry is insane. We had a lunch meeting yesterday with some people I was introducing him to for this development project and it was just wild. What’s the opposite of viagra? I’m going to need some of that, stat!

I have to say it’s adorable the way he’s intrigued by me. I feel the same way, but I don’t show it. We talk on a pretty deep level and can never seem to break off to get back to the office. He can’t keep his hands off me, and makes me feel pretty effing sexy, so I won’t complain there. But, still sticking to my guns. I’m not interested in what he has to offer at the moment.

I told him that what he sees as a relationship differs from what I see. I don’t see relationships as having to end in marriage. It’s like dating and if it goes that way one day, ok, but those thoughts are so way off. His culture puts a lot more pressure on a relationship.

Anyway, I told him that he needs to work on himself before I entertain anything :joy: Ha! Me saying that. What a difference a year of sobriety and therapy makes.

In the meantime, I really enjoy his company. That accent though. Damn, please, I need the opposite of viagra like really soon or they are going to send me to the geriatric ho house.

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You’ll be welcomed with open arms here at the old time ho house! :rofl:

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:joy::joy::joy:
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The book of joy is amazing!!! Learned so much from reading it:)

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Imagine him picking his nose? (to be the opposite of viagra)

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Ah hahaha Flo :joy::joy::joy::joy:

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Girl, I think that would even be sexy.

I’m starting to feel very comfortable around him which is a good thing. Right now, the fun flirtation is working. For me anyway. I haven’t caught any feels yet, other than I like spending time with him and he gives me a big old lady boner. We’ll see what happens.

I don’t know the whole story yet regarding his last relationship, but apparently the woman was really possessive and nasty. If he was away on business, and wasn’t able to pick up when she called, or missed a call, she would go nuts and leave him wild messages.

Joking around I said, “So, like, were the messages like ‘who’s the whore?!?!’” And he was like, yes but way worse. Just ripping him a new asshole and cursing at him. He’s pretty sensitive which is going to take some getting used to. So, I think he projects some of that onto me.

The other day he was like, if I want just a week to be quiet, don’t want someone getting all upset about it. He doesn’t have to worry about me, because if he wants to see me, he would have to come here. I’m too lazy for a relationship :joy: I would also be totally fine seeing someone once a week or less. I’m very content exactly the way my life is now. Exactly.

It’s like he doesn’t hear the words that come out of my mouth :woman_shrugging:

Super sexy, but also super annoying :joy:

I just let him do his therapy and I’ll do my own thing.

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Well, I guess I’ll flap my gums a bit about what happened when Ava was here last weekend. For those who don’t know, Ava is my 15-year-old daughter that is being alienated from me by her dad and stepmother.

At this point I have realized it’s too far gone and irreparable at the moment. Perhaps not in the future, but right now, even though the pain is something I don’t even have the vocabulary to describe, I need to let go.

It’s hard to find support because 99% of parental alienation cases are women that alienate their children from their fathers. It’s sad that parents can be so selfish that they put their own wants before the needs of their children. Turning a daughter against her mother is damaging.

My ex and his wife refuse to get Ava help, and she desperately needs it. She self harms and has kleptomania. Her father has kleptomania and his mother too. Apparently there is some help but no cure. She has seen him almost kill me two times when she was very young. I just remember her standing in the doorway staring. So of course he’s more concerned with that coming out than her getting the help she needs.

I realized she is also being coached, as a lot of the things she said last weekend were verbatim things her father has said to me, and not something she would normally say.

She’s also developed and eating disorder. It’s been manifesting for years, but she flat out starving herself. She’s lost 55lbs since I last saw her at the end of January. She also went down to the gym and worked out every night she was here. It’s not bad it’s just part of her new obsession. I recognize the signs because I am both anorexic and bulimic. This is yet something else they refuse to address.

I’m have been dictated to and have not had a say in anything for a while now. They don’t tell me when she has awards ceremonies or when she’s performing in a band concert. When she was living with me, I invited him to literally everything and kept him in the loop on every single thing.

They constantly take her out of state without letting me know. Sometimes for over a month at a time.

This Mother’s Day, she posted pics with I guess her new mom? I’ve 100% been replaced. If she were with me, number one SHE WOULDN’T because I would make sure she was with her dad, but if she posted Father’s Day pics with another man, I better go into hiding because he would literally murder me.

I wasn’t feeling well last weekend and have chest pains. I’ve had two heart attacks and that shit is scary when it happens. It just annoyed her as it was inconvenient to her. We were out with the dogs, I was taking a little breather, catching my breath and had chest pain, I was doing my Apple Watch ECG thing and she asked me for a poop bag. I said just a second because that thing takes 30 seconds. She huffed off and got one herself (which she should have fucking done anyway). I told her that it really upsets me when she has zero empathy for my heart condition or feelings. She just rolls her eyes. She just can’t stand me at this point.

We get back upstairs and she asked me what time the dogs need to go out again, and I said around 5pm. She goes “oh, because I just got a text that I’m getting picked up in an hour”. What???

Do you think ANYONE checked with me on this? Nope! To make it worse, it was her new bestie stepmom coming to get her. She gets off on hurting me as well as my ex. I have no idea why. I have literally done nothing but the right thing with them and treated them with fairness and kindness. I’m always the bigger person to avoid an argument and it’s only backfired. Karma is a lie folks. For some reason all the good karma is going to the people who get off on torturing me.

I started to cry and finally, finally told her how it is. I’m sick of this bullshit. Her posting negative shit about me on TikTok. I hate the word victim, but they are all victim blaming on a massive scale.

So I told her, Your dad ABANDONED us! He left for the army, left me with legal bills that I had no idea about, had an affair and came home and beat this shit out of me. Sorry I drank my weight in booze, I was broken hearted. Not an excuse, but I didn’t know how to cope. Because believe it or not, I was madly in love with your father when he left. I was hurting and I missed him. I didn’t ever want to be a single mom again, and here I was.

She literally started laughing at me. I said are you seriously laughing at me right now? She said there was something funny on her phone. That something funny was her stepmom and they were making fun of me and furthermore, the stepmom told Ava to post whatever she wants because she will block me. Dumb bitch doesn’t realize I can still see the post just not the tag. Moron.

How did I find out, after Ava left, I blocked her dad, her stepmom, and every person in both families. I saw her name tagged the hour before, and when I went to block her, I could not because she had just blocked me. What a piece of shit garbage person. What kind of woman does that to another woman?? I also changed the elevator code because I don’t trust him to not try and come up here to kill me after telling Ava the truth.

I know that the stepmom is jealous of me because she’s told me multiple times. That’s her problem and not mine. There is absolutely nothing to be jealous of. He’s with her. I don’t want any piece of that shit show or I would not have left his stupid, loser, victim mentality, hung like a fucking light switch ass.

I was uncertain if I should have told her what her father did, but my therapist said that at this point I absolutely had to. Now I have to have no contact with her until she can be respectful. That’s the hardest part. I’m one of these moms, like Cheryl Hines in “A Bad Mom’s Christmas “

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I constantly need to let them know how loved they are. Not telling her how much I love her everyday is killing me :pleading_face:

So, that was last weekend. I’m kind of just pushing the feelings down because I don’t know how to process them. Then I will address them in therapy and then back in the back pocket they will go until next week.

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Beth, I cant magine how much this is killing you inside, the amount of pain must be horrific. I am glad you are opening up about it keeping that shit inside isn’t good.
Love you.
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Wow, Beth! No mom should have to endure such emotional pain, especially from their own child and extended family. She’s obviously being coached way too much. Where the fuck is karma when you need it? Hopefully, in time, what you told her about the past will trigger some burried memories and she’ll come around. I can’t imagine the pain you’re feeling. I applaud you for keeping your sanity and staying sober through this heart ache. Much love! :heart:

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:heart::star::heart::star::heart::star::heart::star::heart:.
I know it’s hard with no control with your daughter’s caregivers. I’ve been there, hurt a lot…they used to control my daughter to hurt me… she’s 21 now and just finished university, she’s moving in with me and her little brother and sister, it’s big for me,I think it’s big for her too. When she was younger she saw me cry over what they used to say…(I was a weekend and holiday mum for years)…all she really cared about tho was how WE were together, without all the other shit,so me rising to stuff and getting angry and upset was a waste of her time with me…I had to let it all go…my shit isn’t my daughter s shit and I don’t bring up stuff from the past thinking she needs to hear it/carry it…the best I can do is be a sound and sober mum with no baggage to remind her of the dark moments of her past and my past…the best thing I can do is accept that those things happened and move on…I can be in my daughter’s future,… I have gone through enough and fought enough and wept enough to be a strong part of her future. So can you. I hope this finds you kindly as I don’t know too much of your history,but I understand the separation and the feelings surrounding the powerlessness over the situation. Accept the things we cannot change…and the courage to change the things we can :heart::star::heart::star::heart:

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