Like Steelers fans. Cult is the only explanation. 
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Thanks…I needed to hear that. Ive been really struggling w depression and Im trying to give that away to God/Higher Power as I work the steps.
I agree the sayings make sense, I think its the group participation/unison stuff that gets me a bit. I will never be a line dancer.
I do get a lot out of listening and learning and as you said, I dont have to say them.
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join us join us join us always accepting new converts!
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D&D is more my speed.
“I’ll take ‘Things that defy rationality for $500,’ Alex.”
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I try to pray that prayer honestly but I hear you. It feels strange to me as well. But…Im realizing a lot of change or new experiences feel inorganic and that dn mean theyre bad for me.
Im trying my best to be open and do what seems to be working for me. Reaching out to AA people has helped me and having a Sponsor has helped me. Im hoping the steps will help as I continue to work them.
I also see a therapist, take medication and exercise a ton…I still have really dark depression though. Very frustrating.
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Can’t tell if you’re joking but I LOVE D&D 
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The 12 steps have lead me to my own understanding of my Creators will for me… Are higher power is to each of us as individual as each of us are… No two the same… That’s freedom of belief… Yet I see Creator at work in every individual… Peace
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You’re doing it right. I’m super excited for you.
I’ve had my ups and downs with anxiety and alcohol over the years. Definitely the only time I had ups was when I was honest and worked on my issues, even though it was scary AF. No more getting lazy. I’ve literally written the reasons on the wall this time.
There’s light just over that next big hill!
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That makes sense to me. Thank you.
Good for you on finding help there, that’s the only thing that matters really.
Yeah depression is super shitty. I also exercise loads and take meds and I’m hoping that cutting alcohol out will be the final piece of the puzzle that sets me back on the right course.
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Thanks! I hope so…light over that next big hill. Im trying to meditate as well. My attention span is somewhere bw gnat and goldfish.
I really do appreciate the encouragement!
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Really good points. I was a bit disappointed that cutting alcohol didnt remove my depression out right but it goes deeper than that. I gotta address the core, which I do believe is spiritual (and mental and physical).
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Lazy…another typical alcoholic trait. Definitely been guilty of that one. Im trying to not be lazy as well.
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The meds may not be the right ones for you. Im bipolar and not gonna lie not taking meds for it and having two babies so close (they are 16 months apart) i ended up with PPD as well and turned to alcohol.
I have been through several meds to work properly for me. The ones for bipolar/depression/anxiety work differently for each person, which is also why the ones to take while taking a primary exist as well.
Youre right. I just started a new one for mild bi polar. Lamictal…which, you literally just reminded me to go and take bf bed!
Thank you! I hope youre doing ok now.
You’re welcome, yeah step 4 is a toughy pulling all that crap out that you have tucked away for so long, just keep communicating with ppl and your sponsor through the process while you are writing it out and it will be okay. It’s not supposed to be easy, if it is your not doing it right… I’ve done a few inventories now and every time I just break down but when I’m done and I go over it with another person I’m like well, that wasn’t so bad what the hell was I all worked up about lmao
Of at any point you need to talk during the process hmu I’ll listen…
Looking at yourself with sober glasses isn’t easy but seriously once you get over this hump you will start to breathe again and the healing will begin.
In the meantime if u are feeling down on ur self go help someone else with something it will make a world of difference for you both… Depression is real but service is always good attitude changer, or write out a gratitude list… 
️ I’m praying for you man
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I like all of that a lot. Thank you! I believe youre right. I will write out a gratitude list bf sleep.
My sponsor said, “trust the process.” Good advice.
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Thats a helpful perspective! I think Im fearing being indoctrinated but I dont have to believe everything or go 1000% into AA or preach it on the streets.
Will I go back to drinking wo it? I believe if I dont work the Steps honestly, I would or I would go back to something to distract my spirit, heart and mind and prevent me from growing beyond my fears and “bondage of self.”
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Actually we’re kind of told not to do that. In fact I’ve wondered if we’ve crossed the lines posting about things here sometimes. Even posting quotes from the book on social media could disrupt others’ anonymity.
Topic for another thread!
Good to hear…I dont want that kind of attention.