No good deed goes unpunishied

Agreed. It’s so tough sometimes. And I guess there really is never a right answer.
I hope you can get past this hurdle. :purple_heart:

What do you say? All I ever heard anyone say was to pray.

If you do not say that…what do you say.

I know you listen, but eventually you have to say something.

He asked for advice and all I could do was suggest playing games on his phone until he is ready to sleep.

But that felt like a pretty weak lifeline.

I do not know how to buy on the street (or even where to go) so that is lucky.

I just thought after getting it down to 2 or 3 times a year, then going five years without using, that this would not come back.

It started before this call. It got worse with it.

I even fantasize about calling this guy up to see if he can connect me with a dealer.

If I am completely honest, I think what has really been bothering me, is that now I know some one I can ask about getting my DOC. Using was not a possibility before. Now it is.

I do not know how long I can hold out. So part of me wants to just use and get it over with. Then I won’t have to think about it for awhile.

At the end, I did not even enjoy using that much. But once I did it, I could go for awhile without cravings.

Have you been able to find the root cause on why you want to use?

I know it allowed me to enjoy physical intimacy. So remaining celibate was a big part of my recovery/ Recently I started medication that has increased libido and the sexual feelings have made me think a lot about using.

But does anyone ever really know why they use?

Classic addiction mind games 101.
This is the voice you want to silence, of course it will say this it wants you to fuck up so bad mate. The feeling I get from defeating these thoughts makes me feel so strong and confident, you need to distract yourself with some exercise, writing down all the things you could lose if you use or something else that you think will squash those thoughts. You got this

The voice of experience and the voice of addiction can sound a lot alike.

I have been doing stuff similar stuff to what you suggest. for the last week.

Unfortunately, all those distractors work great while you do them, but eventually you have to stop and those feelings come right back.

I think one of the main reasons I drank was to numb my mind because I’m garbage at processing and understanding what I’m feeling, a lot of anxiety too.
I don’t know anything about the PMO side but maybe they have some tools to help you find balance?

I do not know what PMO is.

I think it’s sex/love addict group, I want to say it stands for porn/masturbation/orgasm

Sex and love addiction groups are for people who have an addiction to sex. They are pretty strict about who they share with. It is very different than drug addiction recovery.

I worked with someone who was a sex addict, and he said they vet people exclude non-sex addicts, since there is the possibility of abuse.

So even if they had anything that would help me, they would never share it. It is for sex addicts only.