Not tryna bash this group at all but

Since neither caffeine nor nicotine are mind-altering or intoxicants, don’t lose too much sleep over them. Neither had the potential to ruin my life. I quit nicotine when I had about 9 months sober. Good luck when you do. There’s threads here for quitting nicotine when you are ready.

Peace

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If you had the meatball pizza from the place round the corner from my house, you might consider the possibility. Yes, it’s that good.

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Um, if you are talking about nicotine in either the delivery system of smoking or chewing, it definitely had the potential to literally ruin your life.

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Always an education, Mr Yoda…

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Because people on this forum have addictive personalities. It’s not always about the substance or what we are addicted to… it’s about not being about to moderate behaviors/consumption. Weed might be helpful for one person but harmful for another. If something is having a negative effect on your life and you are still trying to moderate it’s use then it’s time to give it up because that’s no way to live.

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Correct. However, my wife wasn’t doubting her future with me, because I dipped. It didn’t stunt my relationship with my daughter, or have the potential to jeopardize my job. I didn’t have to worry about an open can of snuff found after a minor fender-bender, or the strong smell of Copenhagen becoming the probable cause ultimately leading to a conviction of being under the influence, and the associated legal fall-out there unto pertaining.

Can’t say the same about booze, weed, prescription drugs, heroin, fentanyl, or any of the myriad ways we humans seek to escape reality. I’ll throw porn and sex addiction in there too, not to mention eating disorders and self-harm. Caffeine? If anything, it sharpens reality.

Yes, tobacco use could have ultimately led to a cancer. It still might, so there’s that. I just pray as I do with booze, that my HP’s grace allows me the maximum opportunity for redemption, and building the best legacy possible.

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Thanks man. I got tore in two for it yesterday…

You got “tore in 2” because you told someone who is trying to quit pot to keep smoking? How is that confusing?

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Nicotine, for me was one of those things that provided nothing, and I only felt when I didn’t have it. Taking a dip only brought me to baseline. Wish I never took that first dip.

Caffeine? I can go without. Frequently do. Coffee is one of those things that gives more than it takes. Still, I would likely be better off without it.

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There are a lot of people on here fighting against nicotine addiction, so please keep that in mind when posting about it. We support people in their sobriety and recovery here.

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Lifter…lol, love your profile pic. Same sticker on my truck, my old vice. Wont ever ride that again. Love it. Hi im Lee.

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Well said. I think the intention for using any substance is what’s important. For me, I use alcohol to numb myself and to not deal with reality. I’m not a weed smoker but the appeal to use, for me, would be the same.

I don’t think Alcohol is the devil for everyone. I don’t think weed is either. But if you’re like me and you use to checkout, run away from emotions, numb, escape, etc. it’s probably going to be problematic at some point. That goes for food, shopping, gambling, sex, and pretty much anything. Most things can be abused if the intention for doing them is out of whack.

And to echo others on here. This is a sobriety forum. It’s for people who’re trying to cope with life, clear of mind altering substances. I don’t think anyone is saying is “bad” it’s just bad for them, and being that most people on here are addicts, they probably have the same mindset.

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Whats up Kevin…yeah, White Pony, this is a rough topic, i mean, ADRENALINE was the ultimate punk skater metal album, but how good is Nokan? omg, so good. Sounds like Palms.

Me too. One very dear friend. Every time I see him I think, how long will he stay alive continuing that way

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Some people get addicted to it. And addiction can make your life unnecessarily difficult.

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Well I must say that I do prefer a slice of pizza instead of a joint. Pizza never made me an addict but weed did…

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I never failed a drug test for a job my mom got me in her office because of pizza. It was to be an intern during law school. I keep it classy.

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Weed pot bud whatever you want to call it is a drug period.

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Weed and hashish were my DOC for 30 years, smoking daily from early morning till late at night. From getting up till putting out the light. I screwed up so much in my life and I did that myself but marijuana was an excellent help in doing that, helping me rob myself of my initiative, creativity, selfesteem, selftrust and giving me plenty of anxiety, paranoia, and depression. When I finally figured out I had enough of the stuff I substituted it with alcohol which untill then I binged but then started taking daily in ever increasing amounts. Tried a host of other drugs and liked some too but hash and weed were my daily bread. I’m an addict to the stuff even though now I’m totally done with it. Not even talking about the physical consequences of smoking 5 joints a day (with tobacco) for 30 years. Call me a weakling but safe my ass.

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That was me except I smoked blunts a lot in my late teens early 20s. Never smoked cigs back then and when I was 26 I started having breathing problems. I thought I just had an infection but my doctor said my lungs looked like they were 90 years old and I would develop COPD if I didnt stop smoking. In order for me to stop i had to quit drinking and i did. Luckily this all happened right when I got pregnant (not that I knew yet) so I was clean my entire pregnancy. But of course after I fell back into drinking and also started smoking cigs (stupidest thing I’ve ever done) so here i am.

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