# Truth and Tough Love #2

**URL:** https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534
**Category:** Motivation
**Created:** [December 1, 2019, 3:21am UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534 "2019-12-01T03:21:05Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/459 "2020-01-03T19:43:02Z")

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I would support that.

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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/460 "2020-01-03T19:46:19Z")

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@TMAC @Eke also excellent choices for mods

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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/461 "2020-01-03T19:47:26Z")

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It’s ironic, when I’m out there fuckin about people love to either join in, or start taking offense. Either way, it gets the posts flowing. Now that we are talking solution it’s crickets

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### Author: ![SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/sassyrocks/32/104454_2.png) [@SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/u/SassyRocks)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/462 "2020-01-03T19:51:51Z")

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Funny about that isn’t it. You mean folks aren’t begging to be mods? They have no idea what they are missing!! 😉

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### Author: ![anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/u/anon12657779)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/463 "2020-01-03T19:54:25Z")

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Ha ha, no!  
But I’d go with the committee idea. Ruled by the people for the people. ✊

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### Author: ![Salty](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/salty/32/377677_2.png) [@Salty](https://talkingsober.com/u/Salty)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:54pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/464 "2020-01-03T19:54:56Z")

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I’d be willing to consider being on a flag committee or something like you mentioned, however I post a lot of memes so I don’t know if others would agree 😂

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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 7:55pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/465 "2020-01-03T19:55:32Z")

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Honestly I would do it, and I would do it objectively if given the responsibility (keep your comments to yourselves), however I think it would probably rub a lot of people the wrong way, and therefore not good for the forum overall.

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### Author: ![siand](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/siand/32/100530_2.png) [@siand](https://talkingsober.com/u/siand)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/466 "2020-01-03T20:00:42Z")

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To be fair, it didn’t really bash organised religion. Just said wasn’t looking for religion in the answer. And a variety of views were given in response, including challenging the idea that religion should be discounted. It was all pretty respectful, hence no flags I guess 🤷

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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/467 "2020-01-03T20:00:51Z")

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Let’s swing this over to the new thread.

> [@Solutions Based](https://talkingsober.com/t/solutions-based/77557/3):
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> I believe you when you say it, but I feel like personal agendas may influence decisions to flag in the first place. However there is no real way to prove that. Hence a flag committee.

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### Author: ![Eke](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/eke/32/33417_2.png) [@Eke](https://talkingsober.com/u/Eke)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/468 "2020-01-03T20:01:04Z")

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> [@SassyRocks](#):
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> They have no idea what they are missing!! 😉

Know enough to hesitate at accepting! 🤣

That’s generous, @Englishd. I bowed out before knowing, during the work week especially, I likely can’t give the forum the attention it deserves.

It would surely be a less daunting task with enough active mods to cover all the times. That might include picking up another to be around for the active Europe times.

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### Author: ![Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/englishd/32/25178_2.png) [@Englishd](https://talkingsober.com/u/Englishd)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/469 "2020-01-03T20:01:41Z")

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I think you would be a great mod too tbh.

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### Author: ![SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/sassyrocks/32/104454_2.png) [@SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/u/SassyRocks)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/470 "2020-01-03T20:02:25Z")

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I have been working on @siand for mod for awhile now.

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### Author: ![Eke](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/eke/32/33417_2.png) [@Eke](https://talkingsober.com/u/Eke)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/471 "2020-01-03T20:02:30Z")

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Agree with @siand for esteemed overlord.

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### Author: ![SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/sassyrocks/32/104454_2.png) [@SassyRocks](https://talkingsober.com/u/SassyRocks)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/472 "2020-01-03T20:03:10Z")

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Ah, the smart people. Damn, I got freakin’ hoodwinked again.

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### Author: ![anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/u/anon12657779)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 8:05pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/473 "2020-01-03T20:05:12Z")

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Maybe a rolling committee! 3 months. Then everyone who wants to can have a go and get a taste of what it’s like to have to deal with it.  
I would have a go, but I wouldn’t like to do it full time. I don’t think I could commit to it.

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### Author: ![siand](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/siand/32/100530_2.png) [@siand](https://talkingsober.com/u/siand)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/475 "2020-01-03T21:40:18Z")

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I did agree to my name being put in the ring last time, I’d be up for it. Would have to set some boundaries about how much time to spend on it, and as per the other thread I think it would benefit from a few more people too!

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### Author: ![anon84416494](https://talkingsober.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@anon84416494](https://talkingsober.com/u/anon84416494)
#### Post date: [January 11, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/476 "2020-01-11T01:40:33Z")

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The hardest thing you have ever done is always past tense.

99% of the time, 99% of the hard work has already been done. Dont believe me? Listen to your own mind and body. Physically tired? Mentally exhausted? Those feelings dont come from nowhere -those are signs that you have been working hard. Those are signs that you are almost there. If you give up at the last 1%, you throw away the whole 100%. No-one can tell you how hard that 99% was or just how difficult that last 1% will be but one things for sure, it’s nowhere near as hard as it’s going to be if you go back to 0%. Keep going.

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### Author: ![anon13078412](https://talkingsober.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a87d85/32.png) [@anon13078412](https://talkingsober.com/u/anon13078412)
#### Post date: [January 12, 2020, 9:48am UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/477 "2020-01-12T09:48:20Z")

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If I had been told 230ish days ago that relapse is s part of recovery I would have used that as an excuse to use again, overdosed and not be here now. 👍🙂

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### Author: ![anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/50afbb/32.png) [@anon12657779](https://talkingsober.com/u/anon12657779)
#### Post date: [January 19, 2020, 2:39am UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/478 "2020-01-19T02:39:23Z")

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Recovery is not just putting down the drink. Or stopping using.  
Recovery should be something we spend time on.  
Addictions played a major part in our live so recovery should take over where addiction used to be.  
At first it should be the first and foremost thing in our lives.  
And, be prepared to try anything! Don’t turn something away just because there’s something about it we don’t like.  
Especially if we are struggling to string serious sober time together.  
Something isn’t working if you keep resetting!

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### Author: ![mleclaire](https://talkingsober.com/user_avatar/talkingsober.com/mleclaire/32/330138_2.png) [@mleclaire](https://talkingsober.com/u/mleclaire)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://talkingsober.com/t/truth-and-tough-love-2/74534/479 "2020-01-27T18:54:35Z")

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If you feel okay only when life is happy and easy-breezy-beautiful Cover-Girl, then guess what? You are not free. You are the prisoner of your own indulgences, enslaved by your own intolerance, crippled by your own emotional weakness. You will constantly feel a need for some external comfort or validation that may or may not ever come.

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