Truth and Tough Love #3

[RosaCanDo]

Your thread may have been co opted after the debate thread closed.

[Englishd]

People can do whatever they want. But if someone keeps burning themselves on a hot stove the blame doesn’t fall on the stove

[Englishd]

I’ve noticed lol. Since I usually post once a week I figured it didn’t have much to do with me

[RosaCanDo]

Yeah, pretty sure not about you. Sorry! (Backs out slowly…) To be honest, though, I do appreciate your perspective and shares on this thread. Thanks.

[Girlinterrupted]

In fairness, I’ve never come to this thread for that exact reason. My reply was because of something that happened outside of this thread that landed here. Y’all tough love all you want in here, it’s clearly labeled and I’ve never read a post until the one that got derailed. I’ll see myself out, but did want to address it as it wasn’t isolated to this thread initially.

[Piglet]

Hi, something I have learned from studying counselling is that safe procedures need to be put in place first. “Tough love” is only usually a non-professional term for the projection of the insecurities of the person giving their God given advice to the vulnernable. Dangerous amateurs in other words. Please respect people’s boundaries and triggers at the very least please! Thanks @Girlinterrupted☑️

[Piglet]

You may be right in some cases. There is also the matter of “I am right from my perspective” v a mass of experience. I don’t know unless I’m a Buddha perhaps but I would go with the hypocratic oath - first do no harm.

[AyBee]

@discobot dispense cuddles

[discobot]

Hi! To find out what I can do, say @discobot display help.

[Piglet]

Thanks for that. True. But I struggle with objectivity

[Englishd]

I often see the question asked “how long will these feelings of doubt, regret, shame, etc, last?” by people just starting their journey.

What if it were 3 months? Or a year? Or 3 years? Would it matter how long it took? Would it change your decision?

Are you willing to make that sacrifice? Sobriety is not a destination, it’s a journey. You don’t wake up one day having achieved peak sobriety. If you think not drinking for a few days is going to erase the guilt and shame then you need to adjust your expectations. Sobriety has not fixed anything in my life. Sobriety has given me the ability to work on all those troubles.

[AyBee]

Have you tried the thoughts and prayers of others?
You should probably try the thoughts and prayers of others.

I’ll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
You got this!

[Englishd]

Confucius say, An apology with a “but” makes you an ass.

[SoberHappyJessi]

Man you are making waves even when you don’t post for almost a month in this thread
Oh how I love you and your tough love.

[Eke]

And an apology without change is called manipulation.

[Englishd]

Taking ownership of all the problems in my life as allowed me to work on them. The only thing in this world I can change is me. So if I’m not the problem then I’d never be able to fix the problem.

[AyBee]

The problem might just be you’re not the problem in every problem.
That’s problematic

[Englishd]

I bet you were a problem child

[DLS]

Look who’s calling the kettle black!! Lol, love both of you guys!

[C_8]

Gold. It’s great to LOL in the morning! Thank you.
If you really have got it, please see your Dr.