Truth and Tough Love #3

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Itā€™s painful to admit, but dam! WHOLE LOTTA truth right there!

Itā€™s not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters
~ Epictetus

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I thought it was " I got 99 problems but the b##tch ainā€™t one" ???!!! :grin:

Go to meetings work the program and you will prob never relapse thats what i was told in 1986 .i took this to heart , decision and choice. i only speak as a Alkie as the big book was written by one .keep on trucking

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My drinking began and ended with me. My sobriety begins and continues with me. No one forced a single drink down my throat. Not one. No one could make me stop drinking. No one can make me relapse.

For better or worse, itā€™s all in my exercise of free will.

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Ya know I never could talk myself out of alcoholism. I had to listen my way out of it. Sure, I would share at meetings or on here often. But if word vomit was all I did then I certainly wouldnā€™t have made any progress. I had to listen, and actually put what I was hearing into action.

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My best coaches have motivated me to be that better athlete that they see in me. It has been a venture of faith in my part to believe in their vision of me.

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It is simple. It just ainā€™t easy.

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Yes, I was including my sponsors among the ranks of coaches!

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So I have just sent my grateful list to my sponsor, where I had to :thinking: think.
And one was ā€˜im grateful for stronger relationships with no need to make it strongerā€™.

My question to the group is : does that bit about no need to make it stronger, would that be an ego thing?.. So I donā€™t have an ego in the relationships I am grateful for?.

I donā€™t seem to have to ā€˜try hardā€™ to talk or
to listen or be the one to be asked for helpā€¦Iā€™m willing to be all these things in relationships with friends, and family so it all seems easier. šŸ¤·šŸ¤·šŸ¤· :dizzy::dizzy:

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For all you chronic relapsers who havenā€™t gone to meetings, got a sponsor and worked a program donā€™t feel sorry for yourself on your next relapse. Do it all and then drink again if thatā€™s whatā€™s going to happen but at least do it all and be able to say you tried everything there is to stay sober.
You might be surprised.
I was frightened to try this route but eventually it was less frightening than death.

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some but mostly things I read or I might change a few words here and there. At the moment they will be coming from a book called, in gods care, itā€™s daily readings about the spiritual side of the 12 steps.

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Nobody wants to answer my ego question?.

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Behaviors where ego is involved, whether good or bad, is often easily noticed, for example, someone who gets offended when receiving critical feedback.

Your situation, it is not clear, so I would ask, what do you think? Does having a need to make a relationship stronger increase your sense of self importance?

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Itā€™s a good question. Maybe would also get more eyes/responses as a new thread. :thinking: Not everyone looks at this thread.

Some actively avoid it. :rofl:

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They sure do. And itā€™s because they arenā€™t quite to the point where facing their own shortcomings is part of their sobriety plan.

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Yes I guess I felt that I was worth something by being the one that maybe gave as much as possible?.. I donā€™t do that today. I am thinking that I just respond to where I am needed and then just keep my mouth shut and listen moreā€¦

Thatā€™s why I dared ask that question!.. I would like to know more about egoā€¦ I have avoided it a lot and I have only just started learning stuff (step work) since I slowed right down to see my own behaviours improve that I Know what I used to do in hindsight??

Iā€™m a chronic relapser!.. Iā€™m trying!. I got a sponsor :wink::relaxed::relaxed::relaxed:ā€¦(will this reply get derailed I wonder?) (Testing the systems)

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Paul is not referring to the chronic relapsers that are working the steps, going to meetings, having a sponsor, etc. Heā€™s referring to the chronic relapsers that arenā€™t. Some people just need that hard kick in the pants!

But yeah, as someone that can relate to relapsing a lot, that message can sting a little. Even if I understand that itā€™s not directed to someone like myself.

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