Itās painful to admit, but dam! WHOLE LOTTA truth right there!
Itās not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters
~ Epictetus
Itās painful to admit, but dam! WHOLE LOTTA truth right there!
Itās not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters
~ Epictetus
I thought it was " I got 99 problems but the b##tch aināt one" ???!!!
Go to meetings work the program and you will prob never relapse thats what i was told in 1986 .i took this to heart , decision and choice. i only speak as a Alkie as the big book was written by one .keep on trucking
My drinking began and ended with me. My sobriety begins and continues with me. No one forced a single drink down my throat. Not one. No one could make me stop drinking. No one can make me relapse.
For better or worse, itās all in my exercise of free will.
Ya know I never could talk myself out of alcoholism. I had to listen my way out of it. Sure, I would share at meetings or on here often. But if word vomit was all I did then I certainly wouldnāt have made any progress. I had to listen, and actually put what I was hearing into action.
My best coaches have motivated me to be that better athlete that they see in me. It has been a venture of faith in my part to believe in their vision of me.
It is simple. It just aināt easy.
Yes, I was including my sponsors among the ranks of coaches!
So I have just sent my grateful list to my sponsor, where I had to think.
And one was āim grateful for stronger relationships with no need to make it strongerā.
My question to the group is : does that bit about no need to make it stronger, would that be an ego thing?.. So I donāt have an ego in the relationships I am grateful for?.
I donāt seem to have to ātry hardā to talk or
to listen or be the one to be asked for helpā¦Iām willing to be all these things in relationships with friends, and family so it all seems easier. š¤·š¤·š¤·
For all you chronic relapsers who havenāt gone to meetings, got a sponsor and worked a program donāt feel sorry for yourself on your next relapse. Do it all and then drink again if thatās whatās going to happen but at least do it all and be able to say you tried everything there is to stay sober.
You might be surprised.
I was frightened to try this route but eventually it was less frightening than death.
some but mostly things I read or I might change a few words here and there. At the moment they will be coming from a book called, in gods care, itās daily readings about the spiritual side of the 12 steps.
Nobody wants to answer my ego question?.
Behaviors where ego is involved, whether good or bad, is often easily noticed, for example, someone who gets offended when receiving critical feedback.
Your situation, it is not clear, so I would ask, what do you think? Does having a need to make a relationship stronger increase your sense of self importance?
Itās a good question. Maybe would also get more eyes/responses as a new thread. Not everyone looks at this thread.
Some actively avoid it.
They sure do. And itās because they arenāt quite to the point where facing their own shortcomings is part of their sobriety plan.
Yes I guess I felt that I was worth something by being the one that maybe gave as much as possible?.. I donāt do that today. I am thinking that I just respond to where I am needed and then just keep my mouth shut and listen moreā¦
Thatās why I dared ask that question!.. I would like to know more about egoā¦ I have avoided it a lot and I have only just started learning stuff (step work) since I slowed right down to see my own behaviours improve that I Know what I used to do in hindsight??
Iām a chronic relapser!.. Iām trying!. I got a sponsor ā¦(will this reply get derailed I wonder?) (Testing the systems)
Paul is not referring to the chronic relapsers that are working the steps, going to meetings, having a sponsor, etc. Heās referring to the chronic relapsers that arenāt. Some people just need that hard kick in the pants!
But yeah, as someone that can relate to relapsing a lot, that message can sting a little. Even if I understand that itās not directed to someone like myself.