What the Fuck.!

*I haven’t fallen off the wagon, I’m still going strong-ish, but a very very good friend of mine has fallen by the wayside.
He had 15 years sobriety coming up for 16 years, and now he’s back to day one.

He was my first Sponsee, when I was based in Lincoln (UK not Nebraska), we clicked immediately and he thought the same way about the AA program as I did, which made going through the steps a ‘walk in the park’.

When I moved to Sheffield; 57 miles from Lincoln, but almost a 2hr drive, l passed the primary sponsor baton over to another member of the fellowship whom he had choosen.

We still talked on a very regular basis and met up for F2F’s; usually when I went to visit my Sponsor (who is in Lincoln).

So that’s the background to this post, but what this post is really about is My guilt and My feelings of helplessness around his relapse.

I know and understand that I can’t work the program for him, but only provide support and direction; but I still feel that I could have done more, what more I don’t know🤔.

He’s coming over to visit on Saturday and he wants me to be his Sponsor again, which I’ve wholeheartedly agreed to.

The reason/reason’s for his relapse aren’t clear at the moment, but I 'll do some ‘old style’ rummaging around in his mind when he comes over to my house.

I’m a qualified (PhD) Phycologist or as I prefer to call myself a Phycoanalist, so I’m happy, prepared and armoured to dig around in his phyce.

But, this is where my guilt trip starts.
Could I, should I have done more and
why didn’t I pick up on his state of mind from the physical and verbal signals?
The only solace I have at the moment is that we Alkies are consummate liars and we can distort the facts to mask what’s really going on to suit our own agenda, and that goes for body language as well; so in essence:
We Alkies are actors more than worthy of multiple Oscars for every day we act out in active addiction.

He’s back on the wagon now, but I get the feeling he’s hanging on to it by his finger tips, which isn’t good.
I may have to (don’t want to) arrange for him to see one of my colleagues (Pro bono or I’ll pay) as sometimes telling your ‘dirty secrets’ and shortcomings, to a complete stranger who is bound by the Hippocratic Oath seems to be much easier and complete, I may be too close, but I should get most of it in his Step 4, if he’s rigorously honest.
My only requirement to be his Sponsor was that he does the steps again.

He may have to see a psychiatrist (same as above for payment), as I/we Phycologist’s can’t prescribe medication, if he needs any, but​:crossed_fingers::pray: that he doesn’t.

That’s where I’m at the moment. Whatever happens it’s not to tip me off the wagon, which would be nasty as I’ve got the reigns and 6 horses out if control would not be good :dotted_line_face:.

I know in :heart: and :brain: that my HP will see me through this, provided I listen to it.

If I can, without breaking the HO, I’ll post updates, but I will be strongly surgesting he joins our community

The takeaway from this is, however long you’ve been sober:
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DON’T GET COMPLACENT, YOUR **SOBRIETY IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL **
TO THE WORK YOU PUT IN TO IT,; BASICALLY 'NO WORK, NO SOBRIETY.

While you’re not drinking you’re disease is doing press-ups and squats in the carpark therefore fully fit, just waiting for a chink in your armour that we all, wear as is apt because we fight a endless battle with a powerful & merciles enemy.
:innocent:&:smiling_imp: PM’s welcome.*

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If I was in that situation and asked you the same question what would the answer be? You cant blame yourself or carry the guilt for it. You cant torture yourself with whatifs, if you do, that will eventually break down your own sobriety. All you can do is help him to find the true source of what went wrong. The answer lies in him. If we addicts hide what is really going on in our heads from others, there is no chance at all of people helping us.

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Thank you for the shere friend

Heyyy I got a question
How does a person, who is in sobriety and even trying to recover, stick up for themselves.

I treat others the way I want to be treated but I’m looked at as weak or even lame at times in this world we are in

How do I combat disagreement?
How do I stick up for myself?

@Lezourez

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I tend to talk to myself lol so don’t mind me.

After thinking about this I thought.
If I was wrong I’d like to be corrected. I wouldn’t want to stay wrong.

As for being thought of for being lame I can’t control others feelings. I can only do the next good thing.

Thank you for letting me write on your thed friend
Take care

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That really is a shame, but please don’t beat yourself up Jim. Don’t dwell on ‘what ifs’ bc it’s already done and there’s no way to know. As someone who relapsed under a sponsor (not that I had years or anything, but), I can tell you it wasn’t your fault. I remember how bad I felt thinking I’d let her down, but even more so, how much I didn’t want her to feel like she’d let me down. It wasn’t what she didn’t teach me, it’s what I hadn’t learned. You can lead a horse to water, you know?

There’s a lesson to be learned here. I attended a meeting really early on where a man was returning for the first time after his relapse. He had 27 YEARS! I just remember thinking “Holy shit! This really is a lifelong thing!” Then another more recently with a man who’d given up 22 years. They both said the same thing “I became complacent and quit doing the work, so I wasn’t doing anything to prevent it.” A perpetual reminder of what we all need to remember. We’re never out of the woods.

All the best for you and your ‘new’ sponsee :pray:

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yea i guy called Harvey 30 years sober decided to go and have another drink i was stunned at that time i was coming up for 20 years sober he quoted the big book and took guys through the program and was always helpful , some times im thankful im still stupid ! since 1986 just did what i was told , got a good defence and network hope your guy does ok wish you well

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