As I have said, all you are doing is proving my point.
What point is that?
That you will be subjected to personal attacks/harrasment if you even so much as hint at questioning Alchohoics Anonymous.
I ended up at AA bc I had tried everything else. I’m probably off topic a bit but don’t sit there feeling sorry for yourself if your not prepared to try everything. I’ll let you know on my death bed if it works until then I’ll do what is suggested and what has helped millions before me. If it is a cult and I’m being brain washed THANK GOD bc I didn’t have a clue how to stay sober.
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Not at all. In fact I often suggest alternatives to AA myself. I’m just saying the reason you are met with hostility is the way you deliver the message. Not the message itself. Kinda like you are doing now. You want everyone to listen to your opinion without question, while retaining the ability to question others. And when someone does offer alternatives to your views you get defensive. Like I mentioned earlier I was pretty similar when I was in early recovery.
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just my opinion but the conversation usually starts with someone knocking AA and it then upsets people but the well learned in AA will not be the ones voicing there opinion, they would be beyond such resentments. Its what we are taught.
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I think you will find my contribution to this thread started about 10 minutes ago 5 or 6 comments up and is very simple in its conception - just a simple observation of my experience. Maybe you have the wrong guy here bud.
I think you are spot on mate.
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I read a lot on this forum and have a pretty good memory. But again, it’s possible I’m wrong in my assessment. I’m feeding the kids dinner so I don’t really have the time or energy to go back through and read your previous posts, nor am I really concerned enough to do so.
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If I could give you one piece of advice - maybe less characterising someone by how early on in their sobriety they are, and more working out why insignificant strangers on the Internet manage to fire you up so much. All the best mate.
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We all start with day 1. Those early days are tough. I spent my first 30 in rehab. I’m not characterizing, I’m empathizing as I know how raw my nerves were then. I’m not fired up, you’ll know when I am because posts would be getting flagged right and left. All I’m doing is trying to explain things to you as they were explained to me when I was relatively new to the forum and sobriety.
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I was just thinking this 
bc I’ve seen you don’t need poking to start your fire burning in the past I’m impressed with how calm your being. 
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I got one child screaming, another watching a Lindsey Lohan movie. Spent all day getting screamed at by clients and got like 5 hours of sleep last night. I don’t have the energy to be fired up
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I think about something slightly stronger than a hookah
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yeah well that’s your opinion 
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I dont believe in a the Bible but definetly a higher power like universe conscious kind of stuff id go nuts with their Bible shit. There has to be a non religious support group. I dknt like rules or structure so that only leaves you with self discipline have to 100 percent believ in your self that you are stronger than your cravings and addictions
By chance do you live in the Bible belt?
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it’s real I’ve seen one.
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This may still be the most constructive thing said so far.
It’s never about any specific program, IMHO. Sharing what is working for us and why is way more useful than tearing anything down.
“Take what ya want and leave the rest.”
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well God didn’t write it with his own hands man did so i don’t believe his teaching i knew i could find someone that juat want to argue instead kf let people have their on beliefs. If i wasn’t afraid kf being kicked off of a good community id tell you how stupid you are.
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