How are you doing?
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This year canât end quick enough for me.
Iâm looking forward to 2023. A new year and new beginnings. I truly believe everything gets better in time as l long as I remain sober.
(excuse me for a minute while I move myself to the derailment thread. 
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@SoberGuyUSA will drag you to the dark side real fast Lisa! You gotta watch out for those fishermen! He caught yas 
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My mind keeps getting corrupted by these looney gals from the Central Valley, Chile and FinlandâŚOh well. It keeps life interesting at least.
I even learned what a âHand Unicornâ isâŚ
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He gal! I just want you to know how in awe I am of your strength. Way too much stuff this year, you handled it in a way that 99 percent of the population couldnât have. Grateful to be on this journey with you.
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Thanks so much! When I see someone like you make it through cancer treatment, it gives me hope and motivation. Grateful to be on this journey with you too. 
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you sweetie!
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So youâre not here for help and according to you youâre not like us. You have signs of liver damage and no intention of quitting. Why are you even on this forum then? Is this a troll account?
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Was probably just someone looking for an easy way out of the consequences alcohol abuse caused for themselves, but not having a real desire to stop drinking.
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Iâve seen a lot of this type over the 3 years Iâve been here. Unfortunately they want the attention but canât face the music as we are what youâd call tough love 
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As Eke mentioned, letâs continue to be civil and also not shame people for where they are at. We all learn at our own pace.
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Well yes. Someone who has jaundice due to alcohol abuse and is not yet self aware of their own need to stop drinking is concerning.
But there is just as much hypocrisy in people here making it about themselves and attacking said person when they once had that very same mentality. It is opportunity to help, not shame.
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While this is true attempting to put down people who are here to help each other stating that âthey are better than or not like or Iâm differentâ âI havenât destroyed my life like you peopleâ is unacceptable maybe yes some of us hit rock bottom before we learned but thatâs the thing we learned stating Iâm not going to stop I didnât ruin my life while youâre displaying symptoms of jaundice and possible ascites is insanity. If you donât want help and are just going to attempt it to bash the people trying to help you why even be here?
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Lots of times people come here angry, in denial, not getting it yet. I couldnât tell you the # of people who come on here at one time or another drunk or using (or not) and cuss us out and such. This time is no different frankly, seen it a lot.
Many of those people have stuck around and become sober and well loved members. Or struggling and well loved members. Others were shamed away.
If we turned away everyone who got pissyâŚwell, lots of folks wouldnât be here.
I try my hardest not to shame folks for being drunk, talking shit and being angry and maybe even dense and in denial, because that was me for years and peopleâŚmostly my husband (bless him)âŚshowed me a ton of grace.
The light is always on here for everyone as long as they follow the rules and regardless of where they are at in their journey. We generally move threads where someone is obviously using and often aggressive to Seeking Help. It isnât apparent if that was the case here.
I want the original poster to know that they are welcome here. Their liver damage is no joke and we hope they will give us a chance to support them in whatever way we can. Totally up to them if they stay or go.
They downloaded the app for a reason, same as the rest of us.
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My email is full of those that were shamed away. Some of made itâŚsome havent. I always wonder about those that are still strugglingâŚhad they not been chased away, would they be sober.
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Itâs not my intent to shame away. On the other side I donât want to be bashed either, first step is recognizing thereâs a problem so that seemed to have happened here as they at least made some move to seek support which is good but donât come on here stating youâre better than anyone on here we are all in the same boat Iâve seen quite a few friends end up dead denial will kill you.
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They wouldnât be sober if they arenât already sober and you know that. This forum is great but it ainât getting anyone sober who doesnât already want it.
As for ârunning people offâ they need to realize actions have consequences. Iâve been attacked repeatedly by people on this forum, including yourself. Some of it has been deserved some maybe not. But rather than play the victim card and run away I decide to stick around, and even make amends for my behavior.
Thinking anyone has the ability to drive someone away, or keep the sober, is alcoholic ego. No one here is responsible for the actions of another. Period.
Dude came on here and talked some shit. People responded in the way he posted and he left.
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I am always ending up here lately. I mean it seems better than TS jail? 
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You arenât alone. Idk if it is better or worse that you are surrounded by 3 moderatorsâŚ
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