Derailment void / Off topic 2021 to present

Your snart-ass reply is unnecessary. My point was - you were not silenced as you claimed.

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Ok. Soā€¦ defending the bullying is ok because itā€™s not actual bullying?

I give up.

Nope, not done yet. Yes, it does meet the threshold. You decided one member is not taking sobriety seriously. Why? Because of how they express themselvesā€¦ in Englishā€¦ not their first languageā€¦ on a Western forumā€¦ from not a Western country.

And again, you asked.

You didnā€™t actually ask for my opinion, did you? That was sarcasm, wasnā€™t it? And I just fell right into it, didnā€™t I?

See, the joys of English, eh? The second language thing applies to me too.

Butā€¦ the user has been on the forum for one year. And they seem quite young. It took me a lot longer than that to actually get sober. Should people stop coming back after a relapse?

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Life would be boring if we all agreed all the time!

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Future finally isnā€™t like living in a wet, turbulent cloud city.
First sunrise since the cyclone where we could see sun, and then went on to be a spectacular sunny day.

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I was just thinking of something I heard the other day. Every opposing party thinks they are right. There is no ultimate truth. In the end we behave like we do because we think itā€™s our truth.

I was talking about me exploding in the office because wtf, I am just not patient enough for most of the bullshit. True. Probably. I mean that itā€™s unnecessary bs. Yet. I need to lean how to deal with my emotions better. And when I cannot convince with arguments I need to step away.

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I agree with your post. Although an office environment might warrant some convincing arguments as a necessity I find in my personal relationship since sober I no longer need to convince with an argument even when I know I am RIGHT. I have avoided so many conflicts by not stepping away but staying silent. Personally I just want a peaceful existence. I am not perfect with this practice but do see progress. :slightly_smiling_face::blush:
Be kind at all times my friends.

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There is no truth, only perception. There are results and patterns that may be construed as facts, but we are not privy to the minutae of changes that can shift results and patterns. Therefore facts can also baffle us. I oftentimes think that journeying this life is like herding cats. And there are not only two sides to a story either.

Iā€™m with you on trying to control my own side of the road in how I react to anything. :heart:

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They are dealing with it out in the open, by literally publically moving it as it was derailing the thread. Thats not silencing, its literally just publically and openly moving it as that is there jobs, to keep this place organised. Without there immediate accurate response and attention this place could easily end up like reddit, just full of addicts lol.

Mods do a good job, dont attack them, they work hard to keep our sober home, neat and tidy :pray::saluting_face::trophy:

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It did sound like things were rough there!! But I wasnā€™t sure if it was all over. I am glad it has passed, tho I imagine leaving a lot of trouble and heartache in its wake. Glad the sun has risen and clouds are broken!

We could use some of the rain. We are having sporadic fires here as it is so very dry.

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Tough love without all qualities of loveā€¦is not loving. Honesty, compassion and respect gets further than anything else.

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Just wanted to add on the topic of losing patience with members who keep coming back after numerous relapses. Likeā€¦ I get it. Itā€™s frustrating and despite my best intentions, I find engaging with people who are struggling like that difficult, so I do stay out of it like most of the time.

But thenā€¦ Iā€™ve been sober for just over two years and I joined this forum in like 2019. Soā€¦ yeah. Thereā€™s that. :grin:

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You arenā€™t the only one. My journey to sobriety was very lengthy and not recorded on an app.

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Thank you so much for this, Scott. This is so important to the discussion.

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Wellā€¦ letā€™s just say Iā€™m grateful this app allows you to delete posts. And that most of my worst moments happened right before everyone recorded absolutely everything for ticktok :rofl:

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It was a journey for sure. And you made it to the other side. :people_hugging::heart::sparkles:

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Tought love, the book and Theory came out in the 60ā€™s. (I could be offā€¦been awhile since i used my degree). As the book and disciples of its teachings went on for decades, it has been largly debunked as a way of help.

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What a great daily affirmation. I might print and frame for my wall. :smile:

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