Does the Big Book need a 5th edition?

This topic isn’t to stir the pot, it’s a genuine thread and question to get others opinions on the issue.

I haven’t got a resentment against the program or book as it works but I just feel it needs changing in line with the current world we live in today.

I quite often get into verbal confrontations with older men in the groups when I reword the book using gender neutral language when I do a reading. Maybe I do it on purpose to bait a reaction off them or maybe that’s what I think?

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ours is on seventeenth edition.
The basic text is the same but the stories at the back change. They are asking for people for new stories at the moment. Not sure when the new edition will be out.

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You should do one mate :ok_hand:

I’m sure others have better, more helpful stories.
For now I’ll just stick with sharing my ESH in the meetings.
Which are back on track…last weeks friday was the first meeting after lock down…there were three of us there…
yesterday there was already twelve of us…looking good. gonna go today as well to see if I can meet some people who I haven’t seen in a long time.

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For me the book shouldnt be altered ive the third addition printed in 1976 at that time there was one million membership .the number of personal stories in this addition was increased to forty four . basic text to 164 remains unchanged dont think id change it since it was printed in 1939 . Russell idiot Brand changed the 12 steps to suit him . if it works leave it alone my own opinion , keep on trucking

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No. I think it opens up a slippery slope.I’m for inclusivity and diversity, but I feel like this is one of those things to just leave alone. It’s a non fiction self help guide written in the 1930s , let’s accept it for what is?

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I believe if one is reading a book, the book should be read as written. If one wants to write a new book, go ahead.

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I wouldnt mind it written in more modern english but that would make all the effort I have made to understand what they are saying a waste of time.

I had to do the work to understand it. So should everybody else!:rofl:

It would be a bit confusing with new book thumpers and old book thumpers.

If it isnt broke, dont fix it.

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My two cents: leave the first 164 alone, shuffle up them stories! A few new, edit a few old, let’s modernize the back end where we can!

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It does say in the txt there not bothered what creed colour religion or lack or religion etc so I feel that covers it I agree story’s should be updated but the txt shoukd stay, ( my personal view)

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John Barleycorn, lol. There are so many book thumpers in AA, I doubt if they could agree to alter the book for gender neutral terms or modernized language. But language is fluid and once a new edition is published, it would be out-of-date.

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Just saw this so there are very small changes happening in the background but as a whole the book should be lefr as it was written in my personal opinion. Have a blessed day

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Can we all just agree that “To the Wives” is a useless chapter :joy:

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An epic demonstration of feet of clay. Written by a philanderer posing as a wife. Pffft.

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This was the exact thought I had when I clicked on this thread.

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