The problem with me is ill not jerk off once everyday and fold my hands.
That’s the issue. I would watch porn all night when I couldn’t sleep because of hangover.
“Men are hard wired biologically to seek out a variety of sexual partners”
Is a hand one of them? 
“There’s no scientific benefit to abstaining necessarily.”
If we have a problem with PMO / we need to treat it. If we don’t have a problem / what are we doing here?
English is not my primary language it’s L3 - ignore the errors
Lol it’s funny because not too long after responding to you I kept thinking it over and I was like “seems I might be a pmo addict without even knowing the term existed”. But it makes sense. I’m learning there’s quite a lot about this addiction that idk about. I think it’s partially because I feel like if I go online looking into it something’s gonna happen to make me fall. Does that sound weird?
@Nortonw so proud of you; I’m right on your heels, just a few days shy of 7 months.
Try the book if you have the time. It has truly helped me. It’s a short read and great to refer back to when you’re feeling weak against your addiction. Choose life my friend.
Nothing sounds weird about our addiction. It is different for each one of us. One day at a time.
I don’t think you are understanding that this is addiction for some people just like you with alcohol and it can consume their lives to the point they fail to function properly in every day life because of it.
The discussion earlier in the week caused some to challenge you and I would suggest showing some restraint in advising it is normal to seek sexual release as what is normal for you may be a huge problem for someone else.
It is normal for a lot of my friends to have a few beers, whereas if I had a few beers my life is highly likely to become abnormal again due to my addiction.
I understand you might be curious but sometimes less said is easy mended and nothing said needs no mending.
Well said. Thank you
As addicts hasn’t everyone been mentally ill at one point? And a lot of members here are suffering mental illnesses currently, please refrain from attacking people in that way. You don’t know what is going on with any individual in the background.
I worded my comments politely and shared my observations so I stand by them. They say as recovered alcoholics we need to be of service to other alcoholics, as we are really the only people who truly understand the situation a still suffering alcoholic is dealing with.
Given you are not a sex/pmo/fap addict you will never understand truly what people who are go through. I choose to avoid getting involved in these types of discussions myself as I don’t suffer from their addiction, I do support them in their quest to better themselves. One of the things we work on in recovery is a sane and sound sex ideal as often it is sexual behaviours which build up resentments and anxieties which triggers other addictive behaviour. Perhaps these people are working on their sane and sound sex ideal now and saving themselves from further addiction problems later in life if they can get this under control and we should support them, not question them in such an unconstructive manner.
The way I read your comments it would be like someone whispering “it really should be ok for you to drink” in my ear. You are still making light of it in your defensive response to me and I normally avoid confrontation on here but given you’ve historically had an argument with a very well respected member on this very subject and haven’t learned from it I will publicly call you out on this sort of behaviour.
Merry Christmas to you, I do hope it is peaceful and you continue searching for the help you need and that you find it and there’s no intent to patronise you with that comment, I really do mean it.
Clearly there exists a room where you have not been or its too far away for your extremely beautiful self to know about.
I’m not addicted to sugar, but I can imagine their struggle. In no way I’m gonna call them “mentally ill”.
FYI /
I was also a heavy drinker and a cocain user. And I can draw the equivalence of PMO to the basic idea of being “addicted”.
Sexual release is not. " MUST" for everyone. There are some humans who can live without sexual desires, and there are some who absolutely can’t spend two hours without jerking off. This world is bigger than you think / you can never generalize all men.
Likewise. Alcohol addiction is not “MUST” for everyone. There are some who can drink and stay fine, there are some who can’t spend an hour without thinking about it.
Now just imagine you being an alcoholic and someone told you alcohol hangover is “essential need of a biological human”. How would you feel?
Sexual release by hand or artifical tools is just as fine as alcohol is / but only to the 90% of the population.
Let me rephrase this again as my english is too bad for you.
Sexual release by hand or artifical means can be a problem to the 10% of the population just like alcohol is a problem to the 10% of the population.
Porn addicts are also fighting themselves to become a better human both physically mentally and socially / just like you are fighting to quit alcohol.
If this simple logic can’t get through your brain then I’m sorry. The problem isn’t with you it’s with me because I speak 4 languages before English.
Please refrain from replying if you are not going to soften your tone or your attitude. It’s not welcome here.