Keep relapsing, latest one

Hi all,

Ive relapsed/slipped yet again. My life has been unmanagable since before feb 2020. In that feb i drank drove as i had been, though this was the first time i was blind drunk driving and wrote my car off (was banned from it) it complinated in me going to my first AA meeting and giving the fellowship a whirl, but all i did was look at the differences, and arrogantly put myself above the people there. They say its a progressive illness (which i now know) over the next 4 years things would ramp up over weeks and months ending with me doing something major (usually drink driving) and id go back to the fellowship, stay until i felt better then leave. This time round ive been in the fellowship for 5 months which is longer than any other time, ive got 2 home groups, i do service and I have a sponsor. I have AA friends and WhatsApp groups…but i cant stay stopped and things have ramped up significantly. My drinking since this stint in AA has ramped up! What was happening slowly over weeks and months is happening every week. Drink driving every week, missing work at regular intervals (using different excuses) . Thursday i slipped and got absolutely wrecked. Drunk drove. Got in early hours. Went to work, leaving 40 mins late, did the hour jounrney to site. Hung out for 30 mins there then called up and said ive got an upset tummy. Went home. Drank 3 pints of lager then got my son. Had another pint and a coke then went home. Did an online meeting with young people in my area. Then spent the night wretching with my son listening. Hes a good lad. He wont tell his mum about the pub (1 beer and a coke) He wont say i was ill or wrenching. But i feel like im going insane. In the last 5 months, i have regularly at first getting 4 to 6 day’s soberity at a time, now im getting 10-11 days at a time. The insanity, is im living in the sober realm, expirencing the beauty of soberity. Then dipping back into the drunk realm for a day, where everything goes to shit, and im running around trying to put fires out. The main thing is the guilt and shame i feel about my latest escapade. Ive risked losing it all. Losing my son, losing my job. Losing my freedom, my house, my life. I could of hurt or killed soneone or a group, because of my selfish madness of a deporable few hours. I feel so bad, ive let my son down, my loved ones and my friends. There’s no hidiing from my addiction anymore, everyone’s aware of my problem drinking. People like my mum and dad know bout the driving, but ex and friends dont know, just the problem drinking. This latest escapade i wont be telling my parents, it would break their hearts and really hurt them. The last episode theyre aware of is 3 weeks ago, where i ended up passing out and going to hospital in an ambulance, and that still wasnt enough pain as there have been 2 episodes since. This mornimg a man from the fellowship rang me, as he could see that something wasnt right in the meeting (could tell id had a drink) that phone call was the diffenece today of me wallowing alone, or answering a question he asked me. He asked whats going on in my life to cause me to do this. My initial response was everything’s ok, i have no reason to drink, life is good when im sober. But then i went away and thought about things. I havent been getting to enough meetings. I get lazy and inconsistant. So some evenings and after work, i think ill just stay in and watch tele. Then theres the dreaded madness, where i dont get to a meeting, but i don’t stay in and i have that thought about chilling with that first pint. I never think of the driving, or the being sick, or offending soneone, or the 10th pint. So my new attitude is i need to do a meeting every day mainly evening and if i physically cant get to ghe meeting, ill do online. My daily programme, mainly the mornimg routine went out the window in days before Thursday, again mainly down to being again lazy and inconsistant. Then theres not living right. Eating poorly, watching to much porn, mixing lust up with love, 100% ego and 0% self estemme. Ive got a lot of stuff to process and deal with. Think im just going to have to keep things simple. Do the morning routine, go to work, or being a dad when not working, get to a meeting, go to bed and just do that routine over and over. Im lying here. Trying to be positive for my son, trying to do my best looking after him and tomorrow he wants to make cupcakes for his mums birthday. But inside im dieing with self hatred and shame. Dreading monday, as i could lose my job. Dreading my ex maybe stopping me from seeimg my lad after this weekend. I guess I’m petrified of the consequences of my actions, but 1 thing is im sober today. I dunno what the point is to this post, im not looking for sympathy as nothing said will make me feel better, i think, im just reaching out to process what ive done and what im going to do, and hopefully find out im not alone in my jounrney and thoughts and feelings.

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Have you actually done the steps with your sponsor? If not, you may want to start. Meetings alone won’t keep you sober. Don’t give up!!

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I hope sharing your truth helped you find some answers. We’re here for you

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it’s like my sponsor says an alcoholic is ready when they are ready and not a second before. I don’t know what monday holds for you but you’re sober today and if you’re lucky you’ll get the world record for being sober and that’s 24 hours. I know how you feel 100% I lost everything in my life and I still couldn’t stop. The bright side for you is you don’t need to dig that grave any deeper if you don’t want to.

The trick that I never attempted to stay stopped is picking up the phone before I picked up the first drink or drug. Why? Because I didn’t want to be stopped. It’s rough man I know but just by reading you’re post you sound like you’re at that spot where maybe you might be sick and tired of being sick and tired. Don’t worry about Monday stay in the moment right now and we don’t pick up the first one no matter what. You will be glad you didn’t :wink:

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Hey , im one day on again. Very similar to you, stay sober for a week then friday hits and i think i can just relax with a drink. Same as you Im not thinking of how I continue to drink or the hateful things that come out of my mouth to my partner or the wretching in the toilet at 4 am. Im struggling hard with this disease, im struggling hard with my mental health. Im weak but im here. I did two AA zoom meeting today and reached out to my sponser. So YANA You Are Not Alone. I learned that from the meeting today as I was the newcomer crying and sharing. Let just not drink for today ok?

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Hey all,

Ill reply to you all. I did have 1 sponsor and we did do 6 steps, but I kept drinking and he sacked me. I dont think i fully did the steps in my mind as i obviously wasnt fully committed, and was still going back to the drink. No issues with him sacking me, he said he didnt think he coild show me anymore, and him letting me go, would benifit me more. I think he was right, in the sence of whats been said, the alcoholic is ready, when hes ready. I do have a sponsor now, whos journey is similar to mine, but who is rubbish at replying to messages, but if i call, he’ll always answer or if not get back to me. Thats another thing, i say that, but I havent been ringing or messaging him, especially if the run up to his latest episode. I think he has the same journey to me, and as we know the sponsor doesnt chase the sponsee, its up to me to call him. I messaged him yesterday morning with my latest espisode, but hes not been back in touch yet. Maybe hes lettimg me step 1 myself? I dont know. I didnt drink yesterday and was sober. I wake up this morning and the guilt and shame is worse. Im dreading dropping my son off, and im dreading the idea, shes going to be asking him questions and hes an honest 8 year old, then she’ll ask me, and stop me having him. If i lose my son, i dont know what ill do, then im sick to the stomach as to why i didnt think about that and act upon it thursday and stay away from that first 1. I just want to go to sleep and not wake up. When i sleep i escape abit. Its 6:50 am here, ive just woken up, my son is sleeping next to me. Last night i was so glad when we went to sleep, because the day is over and i havent got to tackle it, or act for him anymore. I can let my head hit the pillow and deal with it. But this morning, when he wakes ive got to do it all over again, and im closer to the questions and consequences of my ex. Just so ashamed and disgusted. Im sick of being a fraud.

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You’re not the first or the only person to persistently return to drinking while in AA. I went to too many meetings with a buzz on, or going to drink after, or even using the meeting as an excuse to get out of the house and drink rapidly and violently for the hour and a half that the meeting should have lasted.

I’m not going to tell you the number of years between my first meeting and getting permanently sober, because it might give you the idea that you can keep this up for an indefinite period.

I struggle with relaying my story to guys like you, guys who are exactly like I was, caught in the hellish cycle of drinking and trying to get sober, and failing. I can tell you it always got worse for me, the drunk driving convictions kept piling up until I was faced with real prison time. Of course it was always possible for me to have a wreck and really hurt someone - and not know about it because I blacked out every time I drank and I drank every day.

But you don’t need logical reasoning or physical evidence - you already know and see these things. Just like me watching my life start to burn down, knowing it would continue, but finally coming up with my drinker’s mantra “I hope I get away with it this time”. That was all I had, an empty longing to be able to drink as much as I needed without consequences.

I was talking with a guy the other day about this - that at some point for him and for me and for lots of sober people, we crossed the bridge into sobriety. A moment of grace is how some people phrase it, or some sort of spiritually profound event, like a switch went off in our heads and after that and only after that, we were able to stay abstinent and start to build our sobriety.

For guys like you, guys like me when I was not done drinking (I never had a “relapse”, I just finally caved into the thought gnawing at me that I would always eventually return to drinking), this is really shitty news. Like some external and unknown experience has to happen first? Nothing we can do to force it? No other way to get to permanent sobriety? I don’t have those answers. But using AA as the springboard, if you can stay abstinent long enough then you will get the chance to come to your own point of full surrender. For me, it was not surrender to booze (I did that a few years before I was able to quit, I consciously chose to just drink and see what happened, to stop trying to control it), it was a full surrender to the idea of sobriety. I had the distinct thought that even if sobriety was going to be nothing but an endless procession of gray dull boring days, it was better for me to go on that path than to continue drinking.

The AA book and program tells us that the spiritual awakening is the result of working the first 11 steps and it compels us to the actions of the 12th step. And the book talks about how a spiritual experience or awakening is a personality change sufficient to overcome alcoholism. For lots of us, some sort of more or less dramatic experience came first, but we followed it and grew it and nurtured it with more intense and honest step work. My experience was kind of like this, and this is where I cannot ask you to replicate my experience:
Step 1 - decided to stop fighting booze and just drink and see what happens. My life was falling into disarray and confusion and pain and I knew it and could not change it. I took this step about 3 years before I got permanently sober.
Step 2 and 3 - I got a promise from beyond that everything will be alright, that I will be able to stop drinking. I chose to have faith in that message. This happened to me in a single instant, during my last arrest for DUI.
Steps 4-12 - I just got busy and started doing what the people in AA told me to do, what the courts and cops told me to do, what my counselor told me to do. I’m still doing what the people in AA and those here on Talking Sober suggest, for the past 19 years. I will continue to do those things today.

I ran out of power, I was blessed to plug into more power than I could ever summon on my own, and I took relentless action to hang onto that.

This is possible for you. You can find a way to stay abstinent (medication helped me with that) and to get really honest in your sobriety work and to address some of the underlying issues of self-loathing and fear or whatever your engine to drink needs (outside counseling helped me with that). You can stop hurting the ones you love, and stop hurting yourself. You can.

Blessings on your house :pray: as your journey unfolds.

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Your story resonates with me. It’s Friday’s. All week I’m sober, come Friday the addictions get the better of me. I attended my meeting last Friday and all I could think of was vodka tonic / and smoking a cigarette (I’ve given up smoking as well). Straight after the meeting I went directly to the off-licence and got a bottle. Got completely smashed. But hey. Saturday I had a reset. Coming up for 3 days tomorrow. The challenge is can I get past this coming Friday sober? Take care. #ODAAT

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Yea we can! Its payday too! I know the craving is going to come. So I put a plan in place. Um giving my bank card to my partner for safe keeping. I think its about really thinking about the outcome. So lets keep clean and sober.

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Thanks so much for sharing your story. It resonates with me on so many levels. I’m finding this journey of sobriety challenging but I have no choice but to continue. My life and my health depend on it. I’ve bookmarked your post so that I can come back to it everytime I need to. Cheers :v:t2:

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