I’m grateful I’m still here and same for you. Yes I’ve had both sides. I tried suicide three times bc of my drug use and wanted to die. And then I’ve had times where I was happy I guess in those moments and almost overdosed and in that time didn’t want to die and started praying. So I was just like trying to ask a qs on ppl experience. But not pursaude or get anyone to believe in anything. I know everyone’s journey is different I don’t do a.a or anything either.
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I understood clearly what you meant.
True desperation can inspire us to grasp at any thread which may help (or not). Finding yourself praying to a God you’ve never believed in when you are at your most vulnerable is not uncommon, and does not mean you’ve been converted… It’s just you taking any chance you can, and giving a voice to your desperation which you just might listen to.
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It’s crazy what being under the influence will do to you and how you rationalize things like that. Just makes me appreciate my sobriety that much more!
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Yes thank you, it wasn’t like me trying to say we need to believe in something. Just that for not believing, in those moments I wanted nothing more then to believe. But I am glad I have made it through those moments and don’t have to walk down that path anymore.
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Totally agree with this, I mentioned earlier that my faith was never stronger than when we thought my Son may die. I needed it desperately. I am lucky that alcohol has never taken me to that dark a place so don’t have that perspective. I am sorry that you did though, and frankly just glad you had something to get you through (whatever works in those circumstances).
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So I feel as though I would love to check in with you all here. I think the daily check in is so great but sometimes can be a little overwhelming as well. So…
Checking in at 38 days🖤
I remember what made me want to be sober and having that day after guilt was so harsh. I was drinking regularly and allowed myself to think it was normal. It was definitely not. I wanted more for myself and my kids. I wanted to break a cycle of alcoholism in my family. I am so happy that I found this app and the people I have met through it. Let’s choose sobriety today 
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Checking in here is a great idea. Well done on reaching Day 38. Really happy you are here and sharing that morning coffee 
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Thank you 
And yes, I miss having the coffee time with everyone! So happy you are here as well
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‘she-wolves’ and 'the lady of the rivers… I think I borrowed one from the library aswell and can’t remember which one I read…so fascinating 
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Er?!.. Not sure what you meant?..
I just have to say how happy I am that this thread has been so successful! The last atheist thread did not have this positive of an impact Yes, we had the beginning issues but thanks to the mods @Mno @SassyRocks @Thirdmonkey and @siand we have had great growth in this I just want to say I appreciate you all for being so great!
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Brilliant, I am on holiday next week and need to go to the library I think! Thanks for the tip
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For me personally, I am enjoying reading all this. It is perspective that is different. And it’s those differences that a person can use to look inside themselves. I appreciate every one of you.
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I am glad you made it thru those moments too. I have had many moments on the dark side of life, some at my own hand and some others hands. I hold on to the love I have for my daughter and grandson and that keeps me here. I appreciate your honesty and sharing your struggles. 
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I’m celebrating the power of human wonder with you. Ask the universe! Yes!
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There’s TONS of non AA options. Tons. This Naked Mind (book/podcast/group), Rational Recovery, AVRT, Recovery Dharma, Women for Sobriety. AA doesn’t have the market cornered on recovery.
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Just got mine in the mail and started reading the book. Even after 4 years sober, it’s going to help me grow.
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I thought of this thread when I read it. It’s from Dharma Recovery
“We are responsible for our own actions and for the energy we give our thoughts and feelings. This means we have control over our own suffering, because the unpleasant emotions take place within us: we create them through our response to experience.”
What struck me a different is that, likecwhat I have read here,…it places control of our addiction in our hands. Yes I might have been powerless over alcohol…but there is a way in me to create a better self environment where I can thrive.
Sorry, to ramble…I think this thread made this book a lot more meaningful. So thank you!
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