Survivors of childhood sexual abuse (that led to alcohol addiction) thread

I haven’t been through what your husband has been through but I and my wife have been through family-created financial burdens (and crises and disasters and flaming garbage fires of financial recklessness resulting in police hammering on the door in the wee hours of the morning) - so the financial burden hanging around your necks is one that I understand.

Money and property and the debt that can be connected to them is a tremendous psychological burden on a relationship, both one’s relationship with oneself, and one’s relationship with one’s spouse and children. It preoccupies and it tends to amplify whatever tendencies are already there, whether it’s a tendency to withdraw (as your husband may be showing here; depression is many things but withdrawal and retreat is one of them), or a tendency to act out / be reckless, or any other behavioural tendency.

Having recently purchased a business I know the feeling of making a major financial decision like that. I considered three options for my purchase, two which had existing customer bases and revenue streams and one which was just starting and had no market presence (the business is a good concept and there is a demand, it’s just this particular brand has no presence here - yet!). Ultimately I went with the third option because it was the cheapest by far, which has given us financial breathing room and helped us ride some waves over the summer.

It sounds like you guys are carrying a heavy financial burden and that is weighing your husband down, and when he’s weighed down it tends to weigh everyone down (such is marriage :innocent:).

My first question would be, is there anything you can do about renting some of that land out to generate additional income? My wife and I rent rooms which helps us pay the bills while I’m starting up the business.

My second question would be, are there any solid options for online therapy? There is BetterHelp of course though I’ve heard it can be a bit mixed in terms of quality. My wife does her therapy with a private counsellor online. She got a referral to this person a year ago and it was random but they made a really good connection and she’s kept it up. I have to imagine searching for someone would really help your husband. It’s possible he may not connect with a couple but he’s bound to find someone that works.

I have depression too. I had some days I could barely get out of bed in the morning; I often had dark, discouraging thoughts. I spoke with my doctor who did some mental health assessments for me and prescribed me some medication. That medication has made a huuuge difference. Huge. Obviously it’s not some magic thing that I don’t have to do anything else - I still do therapy, we do marriage counselling (keeping ourselves in top form!), I still have to get to work daily, I still have to (and I do enjoy!) be an attentive spouse - but it has changed my mood and made it so much clearer, helping me to stand on my own two feet, to be present for myself and for others.

Once those concrete things are dealt with - which is essential for him, to be clear and to see things clearly - he can start digging into what draws him to this image of himself as a farmer. It’s never about the physical; the physical world always symbolizes something to us, it always means something about our core beliefs and our core identities. (This is why my wife and I arguing about the dishwasher is never really about the dishwasher.) When he’s in a position where he (and both you guys) are standing on your feet with some mental / emotional clarity and some clarity about cash flow, it’ll be possible to dig into some of that and help him get grounded in his inner currents. This will help him (and you) to talk openly and constructively about where the currents of your lives are going.

It’s a hard situation you’re in, I know. It is high-pressure. Pressure breaks rocks but it also makes diamonds. Your goal is to be the diamond. I promise you it is possible. You will have to dig deep, emotionally, deeper than you can even imagine. You can do it. It is hard but you can do it.

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I relate to you so very much. I am sorry you had to go through all of that! I am here if you want to talk through anything or if you just need to get something off your chest. I feel like that helps me a lot when I’m dealing with flashbacks or triggers.
I hope you understand that it was never your fault! You are worth love and care!! And it’s never too late to start fresh. I’m sending love your way hun :two_hearts::two_hearts:

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From what you’re telling here I’d say your husband needs help. Quite a lot of it. From whatever corner possible, peer to peer, professional, books. From what you tell your husband has a very serious problem.

I’ve been abused, by a sibling and a teacher, and not getting support from my parents. I didn’t ask for it too BTW, but that’s besides the point. And it totally messed up my life. Only now, in my mid fifties and sober for three and a half years, I am trying to make sense of it all. Process what happened to me, what the abuse did to my core, to my sexuality, to my personality. Only now do I dare to face what happened and try to come to some sort of peace with it, and actually move on with my life.

I’m pretty sure I’ll be in therapy for quite a while still. EMDR just one of the facets of it. Anyway, a good starting point for me has been reading this book. It’s primarily aimed at the victims themselves, but has a chapter dedicated to their partners too. it’s heavy reading. Lots of what I read felt like being kicked in the stomach. But 90% of what is written there applies to me.

The writer was abused himself by a catholic priest and became a counselor and therapist. He knows what he is talking about. If your husband would read it I’m sure it would have an effect. And for you I feel it’s good to gain some understanding of what is going on inside of him. Again it’s heavy confrontational material. But so is the subject at hand.

I’m working with this book now, it’s more of a work book with practical excercises. Maybe helpful to the both of you. Preferably worked through with a therapist, but it can be done without one too.

Wishing the three of you all success X

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I, unfortunately know this situation also, however our newborn was convinced naturally.

The boundaries you are setting are by no means unrealistic or unreasonable. You have the care of a small person which is a massive responsibility.

Like me, I believe that his lack of interest in the child is due to a detachment disorder. Not that he hates the child or regrets the decision, but moreso that it’s brought up more suppressed feelings that have been long unresolved.

You have a sound understanding (from my perspective) that nature vs nurture is the proverbial line in the sand. You can only help someone who is ready to seek help. It’s a form of tough love, but a self protective one.

When it comes to therapy, could zoom/teams online sessions be of possibility? You could make the appointments weeks in advance and not remind him of them until a day beforehand, if he’s agreeable or open to therapy. Lots of places offer it now due to COVID.

Personally, I’m utilising our university grad students at minimal cost and helping them with finishing their degree, and am tolerant of a 6mth change of therapist, to access such affordable long term therapy whilst I figure out how to next proceed. It’s like $10 p/h for me having a DVA (government veterans/disability) card.
Could that be something worth looking into?

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I too am a big believer in EMDR therapy for trauma such as yours. I was raped as a teenager by a school friend and abused by my step father. It lead to 25 years of drug and alcohol abuse. I began EMDR a couple of months ago and have found it life changing in dealing with my flashbacks secondary to PTSD. I find it so helpful because you dont have to verbalise what you went through but revisit it in your mind and rewire the emotions associated with the memory of the experience. I am now day 35 sober and EDMR continues to help me deal with my trauma despite how much more intense it can be coping with it without being numb from drinking or using.
I am truly sorry that you were hurt so terribly as a child and pray you find the right treatment for yourself in turn for your family.
" Healing doesn’t mean the damage never existed. It means the damage no longer controls your life "

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For me, I didn’t even know it was there until I was forced (broken elbow and golden staph) to get sober. I’ve self medicated for 35yrs (not that I knew that it was called that), and only just starting to unlock my past at 40yrs old.

I honestly don’t know how I’ve survived and functioned enough that I haven’t lost my children, my house, my licence.

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Abuse is hard to deal with as it is but is impossible to begin to heal when it is invalidated. I am so sincerely sorry that your parents not only invalidated your abuse but enabled it to happen and didnt protect you. That was their job and they failed.

When I told my mother what my step father was doing she told me “you would get people hung with the things you say” and refused to hear anymore about it. She chose him and that was something that I was never able to even begin to understand. At the age of 16 she told me to get out of her house with my lies. I moved in with my grandparents who I suspect knew what was happening but said nothing and just loved me and encouraged me to get on with life. Unfortunately I was raped at a party by a school friend that same year and because of my previous experience with disclosing I decided not to tell anyone. This lead to years of alcohol and drug abuse, mental health issues, failed relationships and crippling low self esteem. I spent the next 27 years trying anything to either block or numb my feelings about what happened. I also tried meds, CBT, reiki, music and art therapy and was also hospitalised multiple times.

I didnt find EDMR until this year at the age of 42 after a friend suggested it. And it changed the way I feel about what happened to me and the way it was dealt with by my mother and by myself. It helped me deal with the flashbacks, the outbursts of anger and pain, the inability to connect with my husband. It also helped me on my path to sobriety. And most importantly it help me to accept the apology I never recieved.

Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR) therapy is a mental health treatment technique. This method involves moving your eyes a specific way while you process traumatic memories. EMDR’s goal is to help you heal from trauma or other distressing life experiences.

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Hi Jon thanks for sharing and there are many out here that can relate to your story. I don’t know if you have a sponsor and have went through the steps yet. So for me and me only by the grace,mercy,and love of God this program has helped me with the abuse part. I was a few yrs sober and that anger just kept creeping up not only in my dreams but day to day life. I didn’t drink thanks to staying in contact with my higher power. I was still angry though and it was hetting to where i was ready to act on it. I was holding on to this and didn’t share this with my sponsor bc of shame even knowing he would understand. He also gave me some power knowing i can keep a little of the old me. I had to decide if i was working the principle in my day to day life and trusting my HP or was i going to just throw everything away instead of reaching out. I was on the verge of going to do harm to my abusers when God came to me and said use the tools you have been given. Finally reaching out to someone i trusted and talked to them n sharing my emotions and where my head was at I was able to get out that dark place and get back on the beam. I turned it over to God and didn’t take it back. Truly am free now and i took my power back. Nobody told you today AA loves your higher power loves you and I love you.

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Hello there, it’s been a few years since I was last here, I wrote this post in 2019 in the centre of the realisation of stored up trauma that I hadn’t addressed, I had Instead been pouring whiskey on it for many years in the hope it would stay numb and toothless. I was a mess and spent some time in a psych hospital as a result.

I wanted to pop back into this quickly to say EMDR, CBT, meditation, Cardio and talking about it really does help! Skin gets thicker and new habits form over time.

I’m 4 yrs dry and clean and have two children now.

Although I struggle from time to time I am doing well and have assembled the healthy internal scaffolding needed to support my jalopy of a mind as I move forward.

This organisation saved my bacon, looking at why I was drinking, what I was looking to outrun or what fire I was trying to put out helped and this thread and some of the quite gnarly truth I was sharing here was the eye of the booze storm for me.

I don’t know what else to say other than it gets better, it doesn’t magic itself better, you have to work your trumpet off to get there but it does get better. Also owning your truth and being open helps. Putting the anachronistic tropes of masculinity in the bin and being vulnerable is a good idea.

Beaming best wishes to y’all.

X

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Jonathan!! What an encouraging and inspirational follow up post. Thank you for updating and offering hope and resources. My heart is happy for you and your family. Healing is a journey / process for sure and takes time and is so very worth it…we are worth it. :heart::people_hugging:

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