Zombie thread. Thanks @DowntroddenGoat
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Dang! Loved this thread!
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…I won’t have anxiety when out just so I can get home and to the liquor store.
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@Mephistopheles csunfurries
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I’m writing this out here even if the thread is inactive!!
- I didn’t want people to find out. I thought I’d be mortified if I ever got caught. So I dug deeper to hide and avoid exposure.
- I thought this was my only way to experience intimacy, pleasure and ‘love’. No way I was giving it up, bc “I have the right!”
- Giving up counterfeits feels like giving up on hope altogether. It’s like burying a part of yourself. Way too painful. But it’s a fake funeral.
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RIP to a legend!
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Ok guys, anyone who’s listened to all 25 minutes of that song knows that “…I won’t do that” is his response to his lover - when she asks “would you cheat on me because of love?”
He will do anything for love - for her - but he will not cheat on her because of love.
So I argue we meatloaf our recoveries 100%: total commitment, and never cheating. 
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You beat me to it! This, absolutely.
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Oh this topic his makes me think!!
One thing I would have real problems doing, even to maintain my sobriety is to drink moderately (I don’t say the c-word: can’t). I mean it’s something that I would never consider or even want but in this hypothetical Genie situation where there is a quid pro quo for my sobriety I would have a genuine problem here.
It’s interesting because it does point out a hard limit I have on this topic. Personally this thought experiment has an additional value as other addictions such as sex or food or even gambling have this hard limit built in as a basic requirement for living and is worth exploring from a compassion/tolerance perspective as well as a personal accountability/acceptance perspective.
Ultimately I suppose I’m lucky in that alcohol is not a requirement for a living despite some of my earlier held beliefs that it was lol, although I believe if I was truly forced into this situation I would really have to work a lot harder walking that demon down the stairs because regardless of difficulty, being sober/uncoerced by addictions is the only thing that matters.
So. I guess if I some Genie said to me my sobriety is now contingent on me having a lunch beer every single day or one at dinner I would have to say (fuuuuuuucccckkkk) “Roger that you ass hole” then increase my spiritual work and my support network, see a counselor and figure something the fuck out.
Thanks Derek, you’ve successfully created a world where kdog is drinking for sobriety, I hope you’re happy with where this led us lol.
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And I would do anything for sobriety, but I won’t do…
Whatever you aren’t willing to do is definitely the thing that will get you sober
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Totally forgot about this thread.
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Love Meatloaf. Why’d this thread die?
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Because meatloaf did?
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Damn. I forgot he died.
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Rest in Paradise by the Dashboard Light
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RIP, Meatloaf.
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