Back after proving myself wrong

Hi all,

I haven’t been around for a while but I’ve decided to come back because I think I need to be honest — partly with everyone here, but mainly with myself.

The last post I made here was in January 2025. I’d got to six months sober, which was by far the longest I’d ever managed, and then I decided to drink again over Christmas to “see what happened.”

At the time, I genuinely thought something had changed. I had a few drinking sessions in December and managed to keep most of them controlled. I remember being almost amazed that one or two drinks could feel enough. I even posted that maybe sobriety had shifted something in me and that perhaps I could now drink differently.

Well — I was wrong.

Not wrong because I was lying at the time. I wasn’t. I think I genuinely believed it. But I can see now that I was taking a short spell of control and trying to turn it into proof that I had fixed the problem.

I hadn’t.

The pattern has slowly come back. It doesn’t always look dramatic from the outside, which is partly why it is easy to keep arguing with myself about it. But I know the pattern now.

Beer sounds appealing. I look forward to it. I tell myself it will just be a few beers, especially in summer, in the garden, after a long day, or when the sun is out. Then I have two or three and they don’t really feel enough. Then gin becomes the thing I actually want, because that gives the proper hit. I enjoy the start of it. Then I carry on further than I intended, sleep badly, and wake up feeling physically and mentally poor.

And then, once I feel better later in the day, the appeal comes back again.

That is the loop.

I’m not coming back because I’m in a dramatic “I’m so hungover, I must quit forever” state. I know those decisions can be flimsy when they are made purely from shame or feeling awful. This feels different. I’m not at ‘rock bottom’. I’m not having some huge crisis. I just recognise the pattern clearly enough now, and I recognise I do not appear to be in control of it any more.

The enjoyment is real, but it is also fairly marginal compared with the consequences I keep accepting for it. A few hours of drinking. Then poor sleep. Then a low, anxious, flat next day. Then guilt. Then the sense that I’m not being the person I want to be.

And it is not just about feeling rough the next morning. I can see that alcohol makes me more snappy, irritable, emotional and reactive. Maybe not every time, and maybe not always dramatically, but enough that I know it changes me. It lowers my patience and makes me less steady than I want to be.

That matters to me. I don’t want to be someone who keeps drifting into that version of himself for the sake of a few drinks. I want to be more controlled, more level-headed, calmer, and more present. Not perfect, but steadier than this. I have a young family, and I don’t want them seeing those behaviours.

My wife has said a few times that she doesn’t think I should give up completely. I understand why she says that. She sees that I enjoy drinking at times, especially gin in the sunshine or a drink together in the garden, and she thinks people need some kind of release. I don’t think she is being careless or unkind. I just don’t think she fully realises how much I struggle with it internally, or how rarely it stays as simple enjoyment for me. In a way, I dont think I need to convince her because this is something I know i need to do for me, and I know she will ultimately benefit from it even if she doesnt see that at the moment.

I also wanted to apologise for that last post before I disappeared (you’ll no doube be able to find it). Not because it was offensive, but because I can now see that I was probably doing the thing people here often warn about: getting some sober time behind me, testing the waters, having a short period where moderation seemed possible, and then using that as evidence that I was different.

In a way, that old post should probably stay exactly where it is, because it is useful evidence. It shows how convincing moderation can feel for a while. It shows how easy it is to mistake a temporary change for a permanent one. People were right to be cautious. I was wrong.

So I’m back. Day 1 - no target (like 6 months before), just to take each day as it comes until each day becomes the norm.

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Welcome back, brother. Your testimony is much more powerful, I would imagine, to someone contemplating if they can drink and control and enjoy it all at once, than anything I could cite out of other people’s experience or the AA literature.

I’ve heard this story countless times. One of the reasons I loved my old AA home group was that so many of the members there had similar cautionary tales, but all went back out drinking after 20 years, not a few months, of being sober. I need to hear this repeatedly, so that I can recognize when my own thinking about what I “deserve” is getting too loud and strong. I can feel I deserve more sweets, more screen time, less hassle from my partner, more doing what I want when I want to. Any of that entitlement can start the slide for me.

Thanks for being open about this, and I am very glad to see you back!

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Welcome back :tada::tada: I can identify with of most of your post. You don’t have to take the elevator to the bottom. Great recognition of your situation. :flexed_biceps::+1::folded_hands:

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Thanks for the kind words

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Welcome back. I think many of us have struggled similarly over the years, trying to find that magical solution to how we can successfully drink. I know I certainly did that for years. We don’t know what we don’t know.

And yes, sometimes I could have one or two, but it always inevitably ended up back at that bad place, the guzzling, horrific decisions or behavior or whatever mess I created while drinking. Why keep putting ourselves thru that? Life is a lot less complicated without alcohol and all that comes with it. I don’t mean life is perfect or easy, it isn’t, but I do have one less very big thing not weighing me down and I am grateful for that.

Glad you are back and wishing you a strong and steady sobriety.

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Your story is almost identical to mine. I won’t go into a long monologue about it as it’s literally repeating what you said. The short version is: moderation doesn’t work for people who have a problem stopping once they start. Moderation is for people who can simply stop drinking and not have an internal argument each time about why they shouldn’t have another.

Welcome back.

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Welcome back and thank you so much for sharing @SussexGuy. Your generosity, as well as many others who share similar stories, is a big part of how I stay alcohol free. I KNOW I can’t moderate because my pattern was every day drinking and bingeing on special occasions. That is the pattern that WILL come back if I take one drink. Like you said, it won’t be immediate but it will return. One Day At A Time that is still the best way imo. So today, I will not drink or smoke weed. I know I can do it today. :+1:

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Hey!!! I remember you!!! So glad ur back with us!!! :people_hugging:

This could be true if we were able to control our drinking and stop successfully without the mental obsession kicking in. But i think that the consequences of our drinking outweigh the slight chance that we may enjoy it.

Idk about u, but i could never predict when i would be able to “control” my drinking or use. I always went into the mindset beforehand that “it would be diff this time”, but more times than not, id go overboard and just couldnt stop at 1 or 2 or 3 etc.

Anyway, u have a lot of knowledge now about urself with what had happened. I wonder also, if it would be worth to have a really good conversation about ur drinking with ur wife. Just so that she really understands how difficult drinking is for u. It may help in the future :slight_smile:

Glad ur back!

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This so many times. Sometimes I was fine with “a couple”. Other times I would say “I’m just having a couple” but I simply couldn’t stop, that switch was flicked and I wasn’t stopping until I hit blackout.

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Welcome back and thanks for being honest. It’s a hard thing to do. Many alcoholics fall for this trick of the mind so you’re not alone. I did too in a way but I just full blown relapsed. No plan. Just did it when I felt stressed. That’s why after I came back into recovery with my tail between my legs after being beaten down by King alcohol again I knew there was just no way I could ever actually control drinking again. Not consistently at least. That’s the biggest trick. If you drink again you may actually have some control here and there for a bit, but eventually that’s gone. Your wife means well, but people who don’t struggle with it don’t understand. That’s why programs like alcoholics anonymous work so well. We all understand each other and the mental processes that happen before and after drinking. Either way you’re back now and you have valuable information and experience to aid you. Keep it up a day at a time

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Powerful words right there…

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Welcome back!

I’ve been round that merry go around too. Several times. I have come to prefer the version of me who is sober to the one struggling to keep it to “a few drinks” whilst secretly craving that moment all week long. Life is much fuller sober

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Welcome back. I think my biggest click moment when I started to get it. The pattern returning after that first time drinking again to see what happened and nothing bad that first time did. When I realized the patterns returning I think it finally clicked for me and I took it serious. Whether or not going to meetings or rehab and then relapsing or just self control and then relapsing this story is a common one. Look to others explaining it and pull similarities for strength. You got it!!!

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Ive never heard anyone else say that, it’s exactly how I feel. I was explaining that to an old friend who had another dangerous drunken blow out of a night. I said I can probably drink ok for awhile with no problems but eventually wether it’s 3 months, 6 months or who knows maybe even a year eventually and inevitably I will lose control and fuck up big time. Do something stupid that could alter my own life or someone else’s and it scares me. My mate was a big drinker we drank together since we were teenagers so I think he kind of understands but not many others seem to relate when I say that. :clap: Well said

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Yeah it’s something I’ve heard many times. That’s part of why I love being involved in AA. You hear so many stories and perspectives. Part of what makes alcoholism so sneaky is that it can be a little different from person to person. I’ve heard many stories of those who picked up a drink and it was immediately just as bad or worse than the worst of their previous active addiction and many where they had some control at first and then that faded and everything fell to ruin. The key here is that they all end the same. No control and nothing good. I have yet to hear of a true alcoholic who goes back to drinking and is able to maintain a normal healthy life. I always keep that in mind

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Yes I’m keen to meet some more fellow humans who’ve struggled with the drink because underneath that can be beautiful people.

I agree and I may, but hope I don’t let my brain trick me in future I guess the longer you go the easier it can be to forget the mistakes and pain that was directly related to alcahol. Here’s to everyone staying solid and giving it their best for a better life

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In person meetings are the best way to meet like-minded people. We all have potential and value, but the drink and drugs took us away from the good things we can be and do. As long as you stay connected to whatever program works for you you’ll be ok. Most relapse stories are similar in that they stopped doing what they know works for them or got complacent in some way. I always remind myself of that too. It’s working for me so far. Just a little over a year and nine months now substance free so I’ve acquired some time, but it really takes a long time and a lot of dedicated effort in recovery so I still have stuff to learn. Just happy to have a good foundation

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Maybe try ameeting with like minded people who have been were your are now wish you well

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We can stay on the hamster wheel of lies that all alcoholic tells ourselves that I have it under control this time Or except we don’t. Hopefully we get another chance at be sobering before the grim ripper collects it fee.

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Thanks Ray

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