I found after detox I did fine without alcohol but found a bottle of tramadol and then when that was out went back to Kratom. I am shocked what a hold Kratom has and so quickly. I’ve always liked opiates and struggled with them for 20 years so I guess it makes sense that I have leaned on Kratom. It’s easy to get…started about 20 days ago and already was up to 30 grams a day…that is a fast progression. Starting all over again with Kratom and praying that I haven’t developed a physical addiction to it this quickly, the withdrawals are a lot tougher than I had expected when I was in detox. If anyone had any experience with quitting Kratom on their own I would love to hear about it. Have a feeling that staying off alcohol will now be tougher without the Kratom, the real recovery starts today!
Hi,
I am using Kratom for 4 years now. I tried to put in some breaks for a few weeks and it all worked. But this year I really took a lot of it, around 1kg per month and my last time trying to quit/make a break was with heavy withdrawals. Felt sick, cold, hot, no motivation for anything for around 4-5 days. The problem is that after a few days when I feel good again my brain tells me that it was not that bad and. I could take it again. I am back on my high dose way too fast… so its not as dangerous as other drugs, but it definitley has some risks. Well its still better than using pills or heroin in any way.
I wonder what you or others do to keep the dosage low. I really like kratom and I dont want to quit forever, its just the problem that I am using waaaay too much. Would love to hear about your experience.
Best regards
My experience with kratom ended badly just like all the other drugs I have tried and alcohol. I first experienced kratom a few years ago and my longest binge was for 6 months. When I finally tried to stop I had one of the worst withdrawals of my life and ended up in a psychiatric hospital. Just like you explained the withdrawals were extreme
Restlessness, severe anxiety, hot and cold, digestion issues. I tired many times to stop early on and control my dosage but always ended up doing way to much and didn’t even get high I just didn’t get sick. I feel like once you cross a certain point it’s impossible to control your dosage and will lead to consequences eventually. I’m sure you know this but kratom works on opiate receptors like pain pills and heroin. I don’t know about you but all my time and effort went into making sure I had enough kratom for the day and I made a lot of bad choices. Your recovery is your own but maybe I would try to learn why you use kratom in the first place and learn more healthy ways to deal.
I really pray that nobody discovers this drug or tries
It for the first time because it definitely greatly effected me. Its like alcohol it’s every where and it’s fairly cheap but has the same negative consequences as harder drugs. I hope this doesn’t offend you I’m just sharing my experience. You can learn to live without kratom. It’s possible to be happy without it. Congrats on day 1 no kratom and 43 days no alcohol. Welcome to the community! Stay strong and take things a day at a
Time. Feel free to reach out anytime.
Hey, thank you for your view and description. I know how it works, knew it from the beginning. But as you said, it gets to a point where its just not fun any more, and it happens fast every time you start again. I mainly have digestion issues as well while using it. Its pretty annonying. And no I am not sober from alcohol for 43 days lol, idk why it showed. I didnt dink any alcohol since februar, dont like it. Mainly using kratom but I have to stop eventually and find out why I use it.
Thank you 
It definitely gets to a point where it isn’t fun anymore.
When I would stop and start back again it wouldn’t take long to be upping my dosage so quickly and needing a lot of grams of powder to feel normal or even high. And honestly who knows what the long term health effects are of using that stuff. Who knows where it’s made and processed or however they make it. When your ready to stop you will and there is plenty of help out there. This is a great community and has greatly helped me to read around on here and post when I feel the need. And sorry for getting the sobriety dates wrong and guess the original post from 3 years ago the person had 1 day off kratom and 43 days off alcohol. Glad to hear you been off the alcohol for a while. If your ever struggling to stop the kratom or need help with the withdrawals or anything feel free to reach out. Let me know how it goes. I really understand how addictive that stuff is !! Best of luck
Hey 
welcome to the community 
I am quite familiar with this struggle. It’s difficult being so available nowadays.
When I became addicted to opiates 7 years ago, someone suggested I start using kratom when I couldn’t get pills bc it helped ease withdrawal. I hated suboxone, so it sounded good to me. I treated it the same and only used enough to make me feel normal, but occasionally overdid it. I was on and off it for years until I finally quit pills for good. But then I was withdrawaling from kratom and was stuck taking it several times a day. I wish I knew how addictive it was before using it, but I honestly don’t think many people knew. I completely understand why it’s illegal in so many states.
I never purposely took large quantities to get messed up. I just took it like clockwork, as soon as I woke up, and then every 4-5 hours until bed. Sometimes I had to take it in the middle of the night to get back to sleep. I started with powder bc it was cheaper, but I switched to capsules in the end to better control the dosage and slowly weaned off of them. Tbh, it probably took me 6 months bc I really didn’t want any withdrawals. That’s definitely not the right advice here, and I’m sorry idk what is 
Just wanted you to know I understand what you’re going through and am here for support if you need it 
Good for you ! Keep up the good efforts sister.
Take care
Absolutely, I dont think its healthy for your body taking that much for a long time. Thank ypu for your offer to help, I’lm reach out when I need it.
Hey Laura,
thank you for your answer. I thought about slowing down and taking capsules to control instead. Maybe it will work, I have to try out. Because I really dont want the withdrawals. Thank you for sharing and keep up the efforts 
Hi @hanskunibalt please try and find the courage to go through your withdrawals , you are and addict that s self medicating through pain and fear of facing life sober . Addict s cannot control drugs drugs control us . If you need to control something it’s a problem and problems have to be faced (not swallowed) you will end up not wanting to come off that substitute either (dependence) “ones too many and tens not enough” . You CAN get through it and no substitutions are necessary ,we’re all living proof proper sobriety can be achieved odaat