Derailment void / Off topic 2021 to present

@zzz maybe instead of directing comments to @Juli1 when she clearly doesn’t want to engage you could put that energy into focusing on yourself, what you’re doing for your sobriety, and what makes you strong in sobriety.
Just because you don’t share the same views you don’t need to continue to poke for a reaction.
Maybe respect her boundary.

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No. You do not understand. She wrote to me. Pm too. I started to write a reply to her, but then realised because of my views this is nothing that impacts me directly. I do not felt insulted or bad. Maybe a bit sad. It has nothing to do with her, its just my point of view that I just cant act differently. Also that could help @Juli1 to understand my position.

I was thinking not to start this discussion, but from all my heart and respect to others, I felt like I need to explain myself.

I always put time and my energy to respect, listen and answer to others.

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@Bomdhil @One4theroad @GOKU2019 @Raspberry @JazzyS

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All I wrote is that I don’t care so much about Christmas. As I felt, there is a misunderstanding, I sent you pm.

If it is not acceptable to not care about Christmas, I am done.

Good luck on further journey.

To be transparent >>

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Yes. Saying to someone I dont care much about what you care and put that smile on end… That is respectful… Goodbye then :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I am. I am. Please dont make it more complicated as it is. I just explained myself that seems important to me. That’s all and also could have helped for @Juli1 to better understand my position. There is nothing I can do now and it is really nothing personal. Thank You, and lets move on :next_track_button: :blue_heart:

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Yep I am ease-dropping and butting in. @zzz @Juli1
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All of this because someone dared to say that they don’t care too much for Christmas? Without ever even querying why that is the case?

When you find yourself in a hole, it’s generally a good idea to let go of the spade and stop digging…

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I think nothing can be gained from continuing this discussion. The main parties seem to be happy to move on. Lets do so.

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I personally think that nothing can be gained from moderators killing threads which do not fall foul of forum rules, but hey ho.

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Rule/Guideline number 10

Respect the conversation. Stay on topic in a thread and do not derail the discussion.

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Whats there to talk? I said it is nothing personal. It’s not even about what she said, but… Oh… Forget it. Really dont want to go into this. I just mentioned @Juli so she could undestand my views. I am not even angry or mad or anything. Have a good day everyone :heartpulse:

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If nothing else, @zzz’s initial snark towards @Juli1 fell foul of that rule and should have been removed. Instead, it was allowed to continue only because his comments were of a pro-Christian persuasion. There are 5.6 billion people on this beautiful planet that literally couldn’t give a hoot about Christmas!

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Time to take a break :slightly_smiling_face:

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aaaand welcome back!
Thank you for joining us once again after those brief words from our sponsors.

Now let’s continue with our scheduled programming - we’ve got a lot of great stuff lined up, along with a few surprises we hope you’ll like.

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funny7

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Dont start no shit. Wont be no shit. @AyBee

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In addition to being an alcoholic I’m a data nerd. So I’m always measuring everything. I use the journal feature of this great app and have started my own Craving Scale within it. Simple 10-point scale recording frequency and perceived level of cravings I’ve had during the day. Today for ex.

– Craving Scale–
3 x 3/10
2 x 5/10

One day I imagine going back and reviewing what’s hopefully a downward trend. Who am I kidding. I’ll probably end up graphing it out.

That’s all I came to say! ODAAT

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I say hurrah for gathering data and visualizing it! :nerd_face:

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