Hm. Ok. I don’t care so much 
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@zzz maybe instead of directing comments to @Juli1 when she clearly doesn’t want to engage you could put that energy into focusing on yourself, what you’re doing for your sobriety, and what makes you strong in sobriety.
Just because you don’t share the same views you don’t need to continue to poke for a reaction.
Maybe respect her boundary.
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All I wrote is that I don’t care so much about Christmas. As I felt, there is a misunderstanding, I sent you pm.
If it is not acceptable to not care about Christmas, I am done.
Good luck on further journey.
To be transparent >>
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I think nothing can be gained from continuing this discussion. The main parties seem to be happy to move on. Lets do so.
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Rule/Guideline number 10
Respect the conversation. Stay on topic in a thread and do not derail the discussion.
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Time to take a break 
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Dont start no shit. Wont be no shit. @AyBee
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In addition to being an alcoholic I’m a data nerd. So I’m always measuring everything. I use the journal feature of this great app and have started my own Craving Scale within it. Simple 10-point scale recording frequency and perceived level of cravings I’ve had during the day. Today for ex.
– Craving Scale–
3 x 3/10
2 x 5/10
One day I imagine going back and reviewing what’s hopefully a downward trend. Who am I kidding. I’ll probably end up graphing it out.
That’s all I came to say! ODAAT
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I’ve already modified it (just now). Total Craving Score(TCS) for today is 3x3 + 2x5 = 19
Did I mention I’m a nerd? 
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NERD is greatly appreciated these days and always welcome at my table.
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I’m sorry… why is this in seeking help, exactly? It’s nicotine. I vape nicotine while writing on the forum right now. Should all my posts be in seeking help? Should I leave the forum because I’m ‘under the influence’ right now? Should every member using nicotine pouches, gums and patches post in seeking help? If nicotine counts as under the fucking influence, then I gotta stop posting, clearly.
I’m sorry, @Dirk , you made a terrible call. Maybe you could stop playing mod for 5 minutes.
@SassyRocks @acromouse @Misokatsu @Lisa07 @HoofHearted @Dan531
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@Amy30 tone is not helpful @Dirk was trying to assist
This forum is a safe place for lots, lets try and keep it that way please
Yes, the forum should be a safe place. Here, we have a new member asking for help and they were immediately sent to seeking help for ‘actively using’ and told talking about active use is not allowed on the forum. That’s not welcoming and the type of attitude that scares people off.
There are many types of addictions here, including sugar. Should pictures of chocolate go in seeking help?
My tone represents how annoyed I am. This is the type of thing that makes me feel unwelcomed. Whatever you think about nicotine, using pouches is not, by any stretch of the word ‘under the influence.’
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Hey Amy,
as the OP is openly discussing moderation I also believe the post belongs into that category. The difference here is about the discussion. Discussing moderation and use can be triggering for some, that’s what the category ‘Seeking help’ in my opinion is for.
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Yes, I have taken crazy pills and woke up in a dystopian hell. It’s nicotine. The op is using it to quit smoking. It’s a cessation tool, not moderation and you successfully scared a new member off. Well done.
By this logic, the coffee thread should be moved here. And the food one, that’s clearly talking about moderation of… food and sweets.
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