I love your art work on your wall! 
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Hello you beautiful people!
I have a question to ask:
I have a new trainer and although i really like him and the exercises I am training for muscle hypertrophy and the program is: lower body - full body - cardio - upper body - full body.
Itās my second week and my shoulders and back are in terrible pain, it does not seem to be just a bit of soreness.
I think iād be much better off with a 5 - day split (that is what i wanted to do but i was afraid telling him that would feel like I am trying to tell him what to do).
What do you think?
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I personally donāt like his split but Iām no trainerā¦ i think you be better off going upper, lower, rest, upper, lower, rest, rest or full body 3xās a week. I would also replace cardio with a brisk walk each day. Just my opinion though. Best wishes to you
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I am no trainer either, and I like Danās plan too. However, I would maybe give it a little bit more time.
Have you told him you are experiencing pain? I would let him now. If you show him exactly where the pain is, he should be able to make some adjustments.
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Felt so good to be back at the gym! Did shoulders today and I really felt it! Then 40 min of cardio and a light stretch. I pray that i can get my daily motivation back. Everytime I hit the gym i never regret it 
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I find itās much less about motivation and more about routine. Once you build the routine of working out it becomes habit. Some days I do not have the want to work out but I do anyways (unless my body truly needs rest) because itās part of my morning routine now. It took a while to get here though.
You will get back in the routine, one day at a time just like staying sober 
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me 5 years ago doing mud races
Those were so much fun!! You can see a brace on my leg because I was still recovering from acl surgery. It was advised I didnāt do this race butā¦ā¦ 
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But youāre a badass soā¦
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Damn girl ā¦ nothing stopping ya.
I absolutely love that ear to ear grin. Mud raceā¦huhā¦sounds like a lot of funš
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So true unless itās my swelling, that stops me 
I actually tore it at a previous race with less than a half a mile to go. I hobbled to finish the race
Thanks @Jasty2 I think Iām more stubborn but Iāll take a badass compliment
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Iāve only done one. It was a zombie mud race, with one of the kids around Halloween 2018. Was a blast though. I should really look for another one
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Thatās stinking cute. Thatās the only correct expression for this pic.
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Thank you so much Dan for your reply!
I love that split and i would absolutely try it but my trainer insists that the third day should be dedicated to cardio 
In that case it would be: upper lower cardio upper lower rest rest if i am not mistaken
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Thank you Gorden for your reply!
I have given it two weeks.
I would have given it much more time if i did not feel pain.
I did tell him, he insisted this is just really bad soreness and we kept the workout as is. I told him about the pain i felt and he only changed the exercises when i was like extremely weak and could not do anything (that has never happened before). I cried from the pain basically, it was quite strong during that workout.
My point is I would have never been that sore on this particular area if there was a different split because the muscle area that was used say on Monday would not have to be used on Tuesday. Even at lower intensity, it was used, when there was no point in that in my humble opinion.
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You should fire your trainer. I read your reply to Gordon and it confirms my thoughts. There is no need to be super sore from lifting for results, thatās old school ideology that has been proven wrong. There is also absolutely zero reason to train the same muscle groups in back to back days.
As far as cardio is concerned, cardio is important for heart health and endurance but not so much for physique so it is goal dependant.
Iāll refer you to the mindpump podcast/ YouTube channel. Those guys are awesome when it comes to programming and fitness stuff. You may want to skip the first part of their show because they tend to get caught up in current events at times.
Best wishes to you and remember, your trainer works for youā¦ lots of trainers are not that good, so donāt be afraid to fire them and move on.
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I agree with you, something seems weird. Seems odd he would be so dismissive of your concerns. Good luck, keep battling!
Dan I appreciate your input so so much!
I donāt mind being super sore because itās only the second week. However with the classic bro split if my legs were sore then iād be able to train them again on the next week, when they are supposed to be trained. I really donāt see a point tho in using them on the very next day though, even at a much lower intensity, and i do not know how that wonāt lead to an injury from overworking the same muscle group.
Anyhow, i went to the gym on friday and this other person was there, i had done cardio with him a week ago and honestly he seems pretty cool. Basically i was like hi, is my trainer here? I need to talk about the split. And he said you can tell me, no problem. I explained how frustrated i was with my trainer including full body days, especially since i train with high weights - low reps.
He was like muscles get created with small injuries and thatās how you get soreness. And I am like, yeah, obviously?? Thatās not what I said to him, i said smth along the lines of yeah Iāve heard that before. And he also mentioned how he had to break the bones of his hands in order for them to get stronger, because he does martial arts.
He also said i need a day fully dedicated to rehabilitation because according to him strength training 4 times a week + cardio on a separate day is like a championās schedule. Like no? It is not? He was also like oh donāt stress about it and I am like standing there doing rehabilitation stuff.
I mean yeah bro iād never have been stressed if last day when i told your colleague i am in pain, not burning sensation from my muscles working, literal pain, I was not heard. After that, i thanked him for helping me out with my āsorenessā (soreness should never in my humble opinion feel like this) and had to go to the gym again to see my trainer.
I really tried to speak calmly but it was very hard. I basically said to him: We need to talk abt the split, uhm, why is there a full body day on my split? And he goes like so you tried my program for a week (it was two weeks that I was there lol) and now you donāt like it? Which had me shook!
So i was like, I never said i do not ālikeā it, I actually had told him on the very first day that i love the exercises and the workout overall and that is why i wanna train with him lol. I do not like the pain that I have.
He then said itās soreness to which I replied my legs are sore, this shit hurts (I didnāt say shit like i really want to be respectful). Itās a bad soreness he says. I said to him then that i hate that i am in pain and i think at least 60% of that is because of the split. He goes like what do you wanna do?
I said a 5 - day split to which he insisted on what i wanted to do and the thing is i just wanted my muscles to be able to rest i didnāt give a flying fuck abt the specific split. I showed him the bro split that I had tried and was cool with it and he said ok we can do smth like that but we need to do the cardio in between.
I was like ok and i insisted on how i didnāt care about what the split was going to be, i honestly really wanted him to think abt it and tell me what he thinks is best. Also, i do not remember what he said but at some point i literally had to say to him that the reason that I did the split he requested was because i trusted him or something, because once i heard it i was weirded out.
So once that went down, he flipped the switch, he said thanks for letting me know and i was really honest and I said to him that this was so hard for me to do, i felt relieved, and we booked the next session. Oh i said thank you and he said too. I am feeling hopeful about next week
I think that even if i was not intimidating enough, his colleague is a co-owner of the place and he must have told him about the whole thing and hopefully has talked some sense in him. I will def look that podcast up! I will try and remember that trainers do work for me.
Phew, that was quite a bit!
Best wishes from me too <3
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I really appreciate you validating my feelings @Gorden
Itās extremely weird like just admit that:
A) this split is not for me
B) you didnāt plan the exercises correctly for all the days of the week
C) you messed up
Offer some rehabilitation therapy, a change in the split, apologise and weāre good. Donāt call my severe soreness which causes me pain, just soreness. Cāmon!
Anyway, my reply to Dan explains what the conversation was like, if you fancy an update
Take care 
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Iām glad you got it ironed out, kind of? The whole thing has a weird vibe, but it seems like he has maybe heard you now. Thatās a great job of talking it through with both people, that stuff is never easy.
I donāt know what that dynamic is like. Iāve never had a trainer. The gym is kind of a weird place for me. I absolutely love it, but Iām so socially awkward I just hate when itās even moderately busy. I feel like everyone is watching me and laughing. I know thatās not the case, but I canāt help it. Iām pretty much that way in all things in public. So, I think its great you work with a trainer, I could never do that!
I hope things go better!