Messed up last night. Back to day 1

Last night I was tired and sad. Made it a perfect excuse to mess up.

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I havenā€™t fallen off the wagon, Iā€™m still going strong-ish, but a very very good friend of mine has fallen by the wayside.
He had 15 years sobriety coming up for 16 years, and now heā€™s back to day one.

He was my first Sponsee, when I was based in Lincoln (UK not Nebraska), we clicked immediately and he thought the same way about the AA program as me, which made going through the steps a ā€˜walk in the parkā€™.

When I moved to Sheffield; 57 miles from Lincoln, but almost a 2hr drive, l passed the primary sponsor baton over to another member of the fellowship whom he had choosen.

We still talked on a very regular basis and met up for F2Fā€™s; usually when I went to visit my Sponsor (who is in Lincoln).

So thatā€™s the background to this post, but what this post is really about is My guilt and My feelings of helplessness around his relapse.

I know and understand that I canā€™t work the program for him, but only provide support and direction; but I still feel that I could have done more, what more I donā€™t knowšŸ¤”.

Heā€™s coming over to visit on Saturday and he wants me to be his Sponsor again, which Iā€™ve wholeheartedly agreed to.

The reason/reasonā€™s for his relapse arenā€™t clear at the moment, but I 'll do some ā€˜old styleā€™ rummaging around in his mind when he comes over to my house.

Iā€™m a qualified (PhD) Phycologist or as I prefer to call myself a Phycoanalist, so Iā€™m happy, prepared and armoured to dig around in his phyce.

But, this is where my guilt trip starts.
Could I, should I have done more and
why didnā€™t I pick up on his state of mind from the physical and verbal signals?
The only solace I have at the moment is that we Alkies are consummate liars and we can distort the facts to mask whatā€™s really going on to suit our own agenda, and that goes for body language as well; so in essence:
We Alkies are actors more than worthy of multiple Oscars for every day we act out in active addiction.

Heā€™s back on the wagon now, but I get the feeling heā€™s hanging on to it by his finger tips, which isnā€™t good.
I may have to (donā€™t want to) arrange for him to see one of my colleagues (Pro bono or Iā€™ll pay) as sometimes telling your ā€˜dirty secretsā€™ and shortcomings, to a complete stranger who is bound by the Hippocratic Oath seems to be much easier and complete, I may be too close, but I should get most of it in his Step 4, if heā€™s rigorously honest.
My only requirement to be his Sponsor was that he does the steps again.

He may have to see a psychiatrist (same as above for payment), as I/we Phycologistā€™s canā€™t prescribe medication, if he needs any, butā€‹:crossed_fingers::pray: that he doesnā€™t.

Thatā€™s where Iā€™m at the moment. Whatever happens itā€™s not to tip me off the wagon, which would be nasty as Iā€™ve got the reigns and 6 horses out if control would not be good :dotted_line_face:.

I know in :heart: and :brain: that my HP will see me through this, provided I listen to it.

If I can, without breaking the HO, Iā€™ll post updates.

The takeaway from this is, however long youā€™ve been sober:
strong text
DONā€™T GET COMPLACENT, YOUR **SOBRIETY IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL **
TO THE WORK YOU PUT IN TO IT,; BASICALLY 'NO WORK, NO SOBRIETY.

While youā€™re not drinking youā€™re disease is doing press-ups and squats in the carpark therefore fully fit, just waiting for a chink in your armour that we all, wear as is apt because we fight a endless battle with a powerful & merciles enemy.
:innocent:&:smiling_imp: PMā€™s welcome.

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Iā€™m glad you are safe. I had many times when I would return to drinking, and in the final analysis I could see that no matter what the excuse was, the truth was I was not done with drinking.

Feeling crappy and hungover was not motivation enough. Crashed cars and disappointed children were not motivation enough. I had to be dragged, kicking and screaming like a toddler throwing a fit, to the brink of losing it all. My choices were drink or go to jail, and the cops and courts were watching me every day.

Even that might not have been enough, without the experience I had during my last arrest, an out-of-body experience where I got the message ā€œEverything is going to be alright. You will be able to stop drinking now.ā€ Following that, I did all the things that had worked in the past to keep me sober - taking Antabuse, going back to a drug/alcohol counselor, going back to AA, and mostly just following instructions from others.

Every day, my goal was to get from awakening in the morning to going to bed at night without drinking. No further horizon than that. And I did the math - it was maybe 18 hours of being awake, and I would have 2 hours of going to an AA meeting, and 2 hours of commuting on a public bus, and 6 hours of work, and another hour of meals, so now the 18 hours was down to 11, and those were broken up so that I would have no more than maybe 2-3 hours to manage without those specific, sobriety growing, activities happening. And I knew I could manage 3 hours if I took it 15 minutes at a time. Like I said, a real math whiz! But not taking a drink, 15 minutes at a time for just a couple hours, I could do that.

For you Vic, know that everything is gonna be alright, and you are capable of not drinking. Get the help, the power you need from outside yourself. We, none of us, have to do this alone.

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Thank you.
I didnĀ“t drink a lot. But, still drank 2 glasses of wine.
The excuse I found was thay I was so tired and sad for some bad news I recieved.
Going to see a doctor (homeopath) on monday.
Stillā€¦ feeling sad and weak.

I donĀ“t have a sponsor. Iā€™m from Argentina. I donā€™t know how that works.
Donā€™t know the 12 steps eather

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Welcome back Manu. Maybe next time, when youā€™re craving this bad, come here or find another supportive person or group for support and delay before giving in to the urge. A crave is just that, itā€™s not an order that you have to follow. Anyway, Iā€™m glad you are here now.

As to 12 steps and AA: it can be very helpful to have support from our peers in real life where you live. AA is the best known and easiest to find peer support group in the Western world. But there are other possibilities, face to face, online, buddhist, secular, christian and more. Hereā€™s the website for the Argeninian AA:

And hereā€™s a link to a useful (I hope) relevant thread on this forum:

Wishing you all success!

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Hi Vic - I also did not know how AA or the 12 steps worked. I looked up AA, found out where they were, and I went to them. That is how it works here, you can just show up at a meeting.

I read on your other thread that you think your father has the same problem as you. That is not unusual. For now it is probably best for you to focus on yourself, and to know that your father cannot be a sobriety resource for you at the moment.

Find the people in your community who know how to stay sober, and do what they suggest to you. That is how it worked for me with AA - I found a group of people who were sober and happy and I asked them to help me.

Blessings on your house :pray: today.

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Next time that happens go to bed and/or do something to lift your mood like getting a treat or doing something fun. The drink didnā€™t really help afterall, did it?

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In the beginning, for meā€¦anytime i was feeling a strong emotionā€¦that might lead me to drinkā€¦I came here first. Talking to people, having fun on here, or just reading.

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Hi Vic! Feeling for you :heart:

I had some nagging thoughts in my head today as well! Like ā€œitā€™s not THAT bad if i JUST go back to drinking ONE wine bottle a week like i used toā€.
I was lucky to already have plans tonight eating out with friends :heart:

That voice trying to convince us that our excuses are valid is really hard to deal with :frowning:

All the best forwards! I can really relate to you here :heart:

how are you today my friend?

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