Meaning relapse graph?
Yeah. You can look at it in the Sober Time app
Congrats. That is amazing. 127 days orgasm free. What was the last orgasm from? Just masturbation without porn? Thanks
Yes just orgasming without porn. I have had a couple of wet dreams but I don’t count them. I’ve fapped a bunch without orgasming but over years of trying to quit I’ve come to learn that The best way to not watch p is to do my best to try not to m. I set a strong intention every day.
M without O is called edging. And for me edging only worked for so long until I just felt that I needed or deserved an O. I tempted relapse every time I’d edge… it would eventually win out. Early on in my recovery stages I would do this and wasnt being fully transparent about P-M with my sponsor. I thought I had found a loophole, a gray area but that wasnt real recovery for me
Yeah man that’s totally been my experience of it. You can only edge for so long before youve got to nut. And that’s when your willpower is the weakest. I’ve got to do my best to keep my arousal down all day every day otherwise it always escalates to p eventually.
Trust, I know the feeling all too well. It can be a slippery slope and once im down hill its like hell working my way back up
Yeah the further you go up the harder it is to come back down. I Do best when I try to stay as close to zero as I can every day and get some positive momentum going but man it can get out of control real quick.
Here’s my graph, the flat line early on was previously a “porn free” period, but after I did a disclosure to my now ex-GF I realised I was lying to myself as I had been going on dating apps during that time, so deleted that “stretch”. I know it’s not strictly porn, but still cheap shit dopamine, and a betrayal of her trust when at the time we had been trying to work things out.
Nice one dude you’re almost at six months / half a year!
Thanks man, yeah a few more weeks to go to hit 6 months sober which will be cool.
I’ve found I’m less bothered about the milestones now, like it’s nice to see that I’m building my time in recovery, but previously when I couldn’t get much past 20 days it was pretty much all I could focus on.
Now it feels so much easier because I’m not focusing on just reaching the next milestone. I think now I just have to not get complacent, keep putting the work in, keep going to meetings and seeing my therapist.
Feels like I’m turning a corner now, in my last SAA meeting I put my hand up voluntarily and shared for the first time, and then after the meeting I asked for a sponsor.
I have done the dating app thing as well and like you said for a quick dopamine fix. I was able to let my lust and fantasies run wild. I wouldnt even engage in conversations, just take in the lust hits while scrolling and looking at the images and reading the bios and then letting my brain do the work of putting together stories of first meet ups, hanging out aand leading to the sexual thoights. I was really bad off
That slippery slope is dangerous. It’s amazing how pernicious lust is. It just seeps in like mold in between the walls, and before you know it the house is crumbling
This is so well said.
Edging is bad. Very bad. Your brain is receiving those same chemicals still.
I am new here. Been struggling a lot with PMO. It has to stop. Today is my day one, again.
Welcome, you’re in the right place
You have made the right decision and I commend you for that, if you’d like there is this method that is helping me called the easy peasy way to quit pmo addiction it’s free and there is an audio version of this as well.
Need to get this out.
I had a nice clean streak going. Was at 80 days lust free.
Yesterday I failed to attend the SA meeting. I try and go every few weeks.
Big mistake.
I got stressed in the evening as well.
That stress led to watching porn at night. Was up and couldn’t sleep.
I didn’t masturbate or edge but just watched.
Then this morning had sex. Now those down feelings are back. Shit! I don’t know why I can’t stop!
Sorry to hear about that. I’ve been there.
How do you define lust? What is lust, and what isn’t lust?
Thanks. For me it’s craving sexual release.
It could be masturbation, porn, sex. That sexual dopamine I want to turn down.