I don’t think we have to oppose atheism and spirituality. There’s even a modern philosophy called spiritual atheism. Based on Einstein work on energy.
Spirituality doesn’t have to be connected to religion.
Nature, and the world energy, made of the same components as humans, may be enough to reach a spiritual level. Like a collective energy of which we would be part.
(Edit: Sometimes I wish I could express my thoughts in french, it would be easier)
You write beautifully! If this is you hindered by a second language, then you must have crowds of people following you round to hear you speak in French 
I completely agree with you. That is why I am agnostic, as I do feel completely connected in a spiritual way, just not to the God I read about in the Bible.
Ahah 
thank you Jenny !
Plus facile pour toi, peut-etre! 
Not for the rest of us though. And you’re doing great as it is.
And to each their own. That’s my baseline. Ideally this would be a place where we can discuss all. Everything. Freely.
Just as long as we don’t feel the urge to convert others to our ideas. I love the free exchange of ideas. I’m interested in why intelligent people believe in a god. I don’t but that’s me And in the end all we are is stardust.
C’est vrai. ¡Es la verdad! 
“We’re only stardust”
Yes
It’s my phone lock quote, and my WhatsApp quote 
I just read a section of that book I mentioned called “Transcendence” and there was quite a bit of what you describe in there. I definitely fit into the spiritual atheist area of thinking, I get a lot of inspiration and solace from thinking about the universe, earth and humanity and how everything is connected. Thanks for bringing this up.
I really appreciate your scientific approach to discovering what creates community! I have been reading this thread all the way through and have realized that it feels a lot more like home to me than other either AA based threads, or the very Catholic upbringing I had! I suppose I’d place myself in the agnostic category…but also in a lot of ways am an appreciative spectator in a lot of religions.
The pagentry and old buildings of Catholicism were always interesting to me. As a child my father made sure that we stepped into every old church that we came across, specifically in our travels in France! But that felt like an archaeological experience for me…not like coming home. but never jumped in to post…
I found my way to yoga close to 20 years ago, and the nondualist tantric philosophy and community I found there made sense to me. It was…as all communities can be…eventually shaken up with drama and intrigue, but the actual YOGA stayed true.
I’ve been a dancer and dance maker for roughly the same amount of time and finished my master of fine arts last week.In my thesis work, I chose to explore creating a piece of community artwork that used somatic exploration as a means to uncover questions and truths surrounding our embodiment connection while simultaneously creating a community of individuals connected through their physicality.
I spent about 95 pages uncovering what I learned, and at least some of What I learned is:
gathering together and moving our bodies with greater agency and joy is a meaningful pursuit that brings benefit to the lives of the people doing it
coming together in movement and food (I brought healthy homemade snacks to all workshops) created the space for people to connect more deeply than what we did in the studio alone
that some large scale purpose, like a piece of art, gives us the opportunity to give ourselves over to something bigger than us…and that we both consciously and subconsciously ENJOY this
4)that giving ourselves a task that seems just on the other side of possible is actually beneficial for us and gives us purpose!
So
Woo that was a long one. Glad to have finally ripped the bandaid off and officially joined this thread mini community!
Welcome!..
This right here. This is my truth, absolutely. I am really trying, though!
Thanks for contributing! That was thoughtful and I appreciate hearing about your experience. What a fun sounding collaborative!
Amen! I am right there with you. Well said and quite eloquent! I absolutely loved watching the Cosmos reboot with Neil deGrasse Tyson because of that - I often would get chills!
The single hardest thing, for some…, believers in religion about atheists…is that it’s not that atheists don’t believe in anything. They actually believe in a lot…
Well freaking said Colin!!! 
Ha! That is an interesting way to look at it! No oversimplification for us!
I went looking for Neil deGrasse Tyson quotes. This one doesn’t have much to do with atheism, but it’s from the heart. When I hear people talking about making Mars habitable, I think WTF?
No worries Rosa I’ll take it down
It would seem the best course of action would be smart recovery
The person you’re trying to respond to is no longer on the forum.
Self Management and Recovery Training seems like its the only model left that doesnt use a higher power
Harm Reduction is the framework to start that leads to abstinence once you are ready to abstain.
SMART is certainly a good option for many folks looking for structured guidance on behavior change. There are others, too, but I’ve know folks who swear by SMART.
I also believe there is a place for harm reduction for many people.
Are you atheist/agnostic and joining in on our “fellowship” here on this thread? We really have a good group of folks here.
