Sober without god. An atheist / agnostic / humanist thread. Please be respectful!

I used to be a Christian for some years, but I couldn’t never undestand the concept of Jesus, I couldn’t believe in him. His death was terrifying, but that’s all I know abour thim. I don’t believe he rose from the dead. To me, he’s just a prophet and a great human.

Nowadays I’m some sort agnostic theist although I’m sure God exists in some way. But I’m still searching.

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I was raised in church. Christian and later catholic. I question a lot of it now.

Ex specially the part when things go bad. And some dumbass says “it was all part of gods plan for me” or my other favorite “god never gives you more then you can handle.”

Really!! Please get the fuck away from me with that shit!!! God has pretty fucked plans for me then sometime!

I just live the best life I can, treat people the best I can and at the end of my days. If there is heaven, I should get in, right???

Oh wait minute, I can asks for forgiveness on my death bed and get in, right??? lol.

either way my lights are off here in this world and i will be die from this life.

And the Easter bunny and Santa are really too. No! Wait!! What???:sob::cry::triumph::weary:

Is God really?? Oh yes, he is real, sweetie!

My adult brain :brain:. Say, yea, ok!

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You nailed it! If God is so fuckin good, how she/can allow all those murders, wars, genocide, animal exploitation, human trafficking, poverty… I still believe in the cosmic Force or whar you name if that keep all together. This world doesn’t need God and religions anymore, it’s 2024. We’re living not anymore in1950.

Easter Bunny from The Donnie Darko 2001), one of the movies err.

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Couldn’t be more with you. Yes, to taken care Mother Nature/earth And be kind and take care of each other. While I’m here on this world. We all deserve to be here, there is no one more deserving or superior than anyone else.

God and religion is war and destruction. And my point is proven by The Bible it’s self full of violence and wars.

So yea guess I’m never real put a label on it. Not much into labels. John Lennon said it best! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

@MrMoustache

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Totally agree there something. We just need to take care of each other and mother earth. We are only here for a very short time.

And when we die, we will know for sure. What happens after this life is over. Which I love, may not be great all the time. But still in no hurry to leave this life of mine.

FYI, I can hear my mom yelling at me, right now from Heaven.

Did tell I was all over the broad with this (that’s a joke, maybe, lol)

Internal battle still figuring it out too

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You’re missed, dear sir

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A gentle reminder…as Menno said, please don’t bash other’s belief systems.

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A Happy and Humane 2025 all!!!

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Happy new year!

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Haha, good one. :joy:

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I was raised Eastern Orthodox and for me, religion was always there through traditions, the bi-annual going to church and family cemetery… you know just a background addition to day-to-day life.

My parents were never particularly into it (though they seem to have changed their tune now). And the older I got, the less it made sense. I read parts of the bible at various times in my life and… I don’t get it.

I admire people who have faith and those who are choosing a more spiritual path in their recovery. Whatever makes them happy…

But the whole thing just never clicked with me. I doubt it ever will.

So now… I’m kinda agnostic leaning towards atheist sometimes. But leaving it at ‘I don’t actually know and I’m not gonna waste my short life trying to figure it out.’ I like humanistic principles. I sometimes lean towards nihilism, but that one’s too depressing to dwell on (and probably a symptom of depression).

The idea that there’s some all-powerful being out there who cares about what parts of my body I touch, whether my sex life is within marriage or not, or what substances I ingest when for our entire recorded history this whole world has always had some type of war, plague, tragedy etc. going on just doesn’t… make sense. That idea is actually terrifying. Like… the being’s priorities might be a bit off here!

What I’m trying to say is that I got sober without a god, or a higher power, or faith, or some spiritual belief. It was me. I fought hard to be where I’m at today and as narcissistic as that sounds, I’ll be the one taking all the credit, thank you very much. :grin:

Thank you for coming to my Ted(x) talk.

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Wow, that could have written by me! I was born and raised as a Evangelical Lutheran and all my life I’ve been trying to figure it out. I’ve been also into Buddhism, Hare Krishna’s, Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy and when I started my recovery journey, I read the Bible trying to rely on God, but that just felt wrong to me. Nowadays I’m some sort of atheist, agnostic and like you, I tend to be a nihilist in some days but it’s mostly my depression talking. But I’m happy where I am right now, I don’t need religions anymore.

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I can relate to one thing in the thinking of needing something outside myself. That something for me is other people. We need each other. For me the slogan ‘the opposite of addiction is connection’ means everything. I tried to solve everything I met in life alone, on my own, never trusting anybody. And getting addicted, relying on substances to help me through life, fitted perfectly in that way of trying to find my way.

Re/discovery for me means learning to relate to and connect to others. While working on myself to make that possible. And I don’t need capitals for that. We’re social animals and we can’t do it alone. I don’t wanna be that lonely wolf. But I also don’t want to be part of the pack that blindly follows a concept like a deity. To me that’s just hocuspocus. Or follow ideas like capitalism or communism for that matter. I’ll still find my own way but not in isolation. We have to do it together.

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Well said Amy :100:

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