Changed posting 1 to avoid any misunderstandings.
The people here are not dumb, they will understand the chances and risks. Dont worry
Theyâre not dumb; theyâre impulsive and looking for a quick solution.
I know. I am too. We all are, or have been. All of us got into addiction because, in one way or another, we wanted a quick answer: a quick solution for boredom, anxiety, uncertainty. We have / had trouble dealing with the labour and the uncertainty of life.
Many people arrive here lost and desperate. While theyâre not dumb, they are desperate - and when weâre desperate itâs hard not to jump at a quick way out.
Ok, thats an argument. But lets just say, baclofen is not an easy way out, its a crutch. It helps you to walk on the streets of sobriety, until you are able to do without. Just âAlcohol out-Baclofen inâ, that will not work. There are reasons why we drank to much, and they will not go away by swallowing a pill. Or in Short: Baclofen helps you with your problem, but it didnt solve it.
If anybody read this and thinks its easy, has already lost. For sure.
Is this clear enough Matt, what do you think?
Itâs interesting. I still wonder though:
Is this thread about The Power Getting Sober? Or is it about Baclofen?
The reason I ask is, if people want to learn about Baclofen they can search it up anywhere. But the thing that makes this place (Talking Sober) and this thread unique and interesting, is the people. Itâs you. Who are you? Whatâs your path?
The title of this thread (âBaclofen thread: The Power Goes Soberâ) makes it sound like it is about baclofen. Thatâs an interesting scientific curiosity; an interesting product - but itâs not a person. Itâs also a bit walking the line of advertising and sales work for baclofen - product promotion - instead of focusing on more of the social sobriety work of recovery.
Iâm curious about the person you are and the path you walk, not so much the prescriptions you take
Both, we are a team. Or lets say: Baclofen is my weapon against my enemy, the alcohol.
As i wrote in Posting 1, im a 36-old-Swiss-men who is fighting his binge drinking problem.
Advertsing? Ok, i am a salesman, got međBut i dont have any financial gain in baclofen sales. I do this for myself (write down my journey, refreshing my english skills) and i also want to help others to find their way out of the alcohol. Thats it. I hope its not to simpleđ
Thereâs something I think many people here would see the same way
Itâs a worthwhile fight.
Other than baclofen, what are some of the experiences youâve had in your sobriety? You said earlier that youâd made several months before. What was that like for you? How did you do it?
Before? I didnt tried to stop for a long time, to be honest. Just made some breaks, a couple of weeks, the longest were 93 days. It was, how should i call it, a âSobriety with pit-stopsâ. But there was never really the intention to stop completly. So, this try with baclofen is my first therapy.
Maybe the difference is, this time is the first time you have
Something changed for you, in your intentions. I think thatâs something a lot of people will identify with. There comes a point where we get sick and tired of being sick and tired.
Thats itâ:+1: This is totally crazy: I mean, physically, i in a very good mood, even the liver is still good But mentally, im a wreck after drinking. And the blackoutsâŚUnbelievable that i never woke up in a hospital or in prison. I would say, until now, i have been very, very luckyâŚBut iâm a gambler too. And a good gambler knows the right moment to stop, take the money and goâŚ
I look forward to hearing about your growth on your sober path - it sounds like you feel determined to make your sobriety work. One day at a time!
Yea keep us posted on your journey ,
Too close to home!
Day 11 and 12
Medication: 40mg lioresal (Baclofen)
Cravings: 7/10
Feeling: Changeable
Sober: Yes
Day 11 and 12 are in the pocket. Strong mood swings and cravings, but better after the medication. Canât imagine how you guys can do this for years. Would like to go to the pub, getting a break from the reality. But there is my flight to Amsterdam tomorrow and the race there on sunday on sunday, so i stay strong. Maybe next week. Wait and see. Have no better idea at the moment.
We do this for a long time because we actually are working our Recoveries. Living a sober life is about so much more than living our lives without alcohol, with or without medication. Work your sobriety by whatever means suit you. Just expecting your medication to cure you is a recipe for failure. IMHO. Living a better sober life takes work, and quite a lot of it. We need to work on our defects, on the stuff that made us drink in the first place.
Anyway. Itâs all been said before. Success to you.
I learned, cravings wont kill me. Plus, I fixed the âwhysââŚWhy did I drinkâŚfor me, worked better than a pill.
Plus, i changed my lifeâŚthe bar scene no longer appeals to me. I dont crave alcohol, because life without it is so much better.
This goes away with time. First the physical cravings will go away, which is what I gather the baclofen is for. Itâs the mental cravings that are harder to beat. I donât know that medication ever really helps those. For me it was a combination of emotional and mental self-improvement through therapy and lots of AA. SMART also works on this, as does other types of recovery programs. I havenât had a craving, or even thought of a drink, in a long time. Thatâs not to say that they canât return, but so long as I do the things that eliminated them I shouldnât have to worry about them returning.
Well Iâll be the 4th one to quote this part.
I have done this for over a year because of how much my life has improved. I havenât had a craving for a drink in at least a year because I have no interest. Iâve never once looked back and missed being a total disaster of a person.
I know that one drink will lead to 12 and everything Iâve worked for over the last year plus will disappear pretty much instantly.
Like @Mno and the others said, this is a lifestyle. The point of being sober, at least for me, is to live a better life. Iâm not just doing the same stuff sober that I used to do drunk. Use the opportunity to improve yourself and your surroundings and youâll see how itâs possible to do it indefinitely.