For sure gareth.you know this my friend.xx have a great day.xxupto much
I’ve definitely heard this before which I think is why it’s that much harder to get through to an addict. I deal with one all the time and it’s like dealing with my kids basically.
And the advice makes a lot more sense when it’s looked at from family member and addict vs peer and addict
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Exactly
Freaking 10 characters lol
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To all the people who are going to relapse in the next 8 days: Thank you for keeping me sober by sharing your story. It’s always a good reminder to see that no matter how long I have in recovery, a relapse is only one bad decision away.
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Lol. Using others pain for your benefit. Love it!
Using their story as a reminder of what I don’t want to go back to.
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I believe this is the very definition of wisdom.
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Just remember, programs like SMART, Refuge Recovery and AA aren’t trying to sell you anything. Their only agenda is to help you get sober. I’d be wary of any recovery “program” you have to buy, from books an seminars and even some rehabs. As soon as money comes in to the picture your welfare is secondary to their profits.
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I agree with this for the most part, but where I live there are a lot of AA meetings that provide Big Books, but for the cost of the book. But I know if you go and talk to the person in charge of the books and tell them they can’t afford one they will still get you one. So don’t be afraid to ask even if you don’t have money. Any AA group I have been to is always willing to find a way to help.
Same here. My home group is rather large so we are able to absorb the cost of a few books if needed.
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Also, at our local SMART meeting they will give out free copies of the workbook
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At my 5-time a week meeting, we give out punches, kicks, elbows, and knees, and if you ask, a headbutt or two.
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The only reason I come back here is to see the relapses and remind myself what I never want to be again. Well also when Im feeling friendly I give out some advice, but its mainly to read the “i feel like i want to die” type post. Jan 1st through 5th is the best.
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Can’t help those who don’t want to be helped. And just because someone asks for help doesn’t mean they are willing to accept that help. I’ve noticed that a lot of those cries for help here fall in to 2 categories: a) people who are actually just looking for validation rather than help and b) people who are looking for us to solve their problems because they won’t put in the work themselves.
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Will it help keep me sober?
So I googled it and I’ll pass. Just because I present one way on here doesn’t necessarily mean anything irl. I’ve been in human services, public interest law and public health for a pretty long time. I’ve been doing direct client services for all of that time. I’ve attended numerous seminars, training’s and presentations that the only objective is client/provider contact and services. For me, there is nothing like hands on experience to learn how to do it. Currently in my office, I am one of few people who are relied on for de-escalation when a client is in crisis. My relationships with my clients are almost always very positive. I’ve trained other people on how to deal with situations. Perhaps I should write a book on my experiences to help others learn. And if for some reason something on this thread doesn’t resonate with you, then maybe you should look at why it bother’s you rather than some backhanded shot about how I need to do something.
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I only get offended by people who post their support for kratom. Other than that, this is the internet. Where differences of opinion abound. But the one thing you can always count on from me is saying what I mean and being very clear about it. As far as authors and books go, I suggest Steven James. Very entertaining reads if you dig serial killer detectives!
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Queu the revival of a kratom thread!
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Thanks for that @Englishd I just downloaded the first 3 books in his “The Bowers Files” series 
In bed sick with Flu. Needed some good reading.
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