Lolololol. I can’t even contain myself. I mean, why didn’t anyone think of this sooner?!
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I wish i knew too …seems like once u start u dont stop til ur outta money and pushed the pipe ten times praying for a hit that aint there…
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I always end up carpet surfing at 4:30 in the morning
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Well I’ve never met anyone who uses crack or heroin “normally”, so I can understand why fewer people try to make that their goal than moderating alcohol.
But yes, the parallel is apt.
I definitely don’t have this and if you do you don’t belong here.
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In all my years I’ve met one guy who used heroin occasionally. I’m still convinced he’s an alien or something.
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This doesn’t exactly help convince me it’s “normal” usage if only aliens do it lol
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I was that way with crack, only occasional use, but that was only cuz i liked heroin and meth better and the occasions were when I couldnt find those two lol…regardless tho, when I did it u could relabel that little pill box @Dejavu posted from days to something more like 7:00, 7:05, 7:10, etc til it was gone and I was certain there wasnt anything left on the back end of that chore or in the carpet
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That’s such a good point, Derek.
Moderation never comes to mind when dealing with my addiction.
Maybe instead of stopping porn altogether, I can just use it once a week.
Or maybe I could use a prostitute only once a month.
I’m sure my wife would just love that. Not!
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I should rename this thread ‘hardcore sobriety’, ya know for us folks who know that if we drink or drug or whatever again we will die, either physically or spiritually.
I never thought I’d see the day where the only opinions we don’t need to respect here are those who are ‘hardcore’ about sobriety. This place is turning in to a joke where relapsing is the accepted norm and that people with good sobriety are looked down on. This used to be a place where people could get genuine help, now it’s just a place to justify all our feelings and relapses. I wonder how many people have died as a result of some of the shit they read on this site. Might as well change the name to ‘Talking One More Wouldn’t Hurt’.
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And to all the good people who have realpsed and come back and kicked some ass. Keep it up. This place needs you. People who learn from their mistakes make great teachers. I learned a lot from my relapses. I learned that no matter how long I’m sober, one will absolutely hurt. I learned no matter how strong my will, I will never beat addiction alone. I learned what having a shitty life really is.
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And to all my low bottom drunks and junkies. Share away friends. People need to hear the horrors of what prolonged drug and alcohol addiction can really do.
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Finally, to rockstars who got, and stayed, sober without relapsing you are fuckin awesome.
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Derek you rock!!
And you are right. Another relapse will kill me for sure…not likely a physical death but most definitely a spiritual death.
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I honestly don’t know which one be worse, but I’m giving it to spiritual death bc physical death is final. You die and it’s over. Spiritual death is never ending. And now I’ve sufficiently scared myself. Sometimes I still get anxiety when I remember how bad things were. Time to watch some Murder Mountain on Netflix to feel better lol.
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As I’ve said before, I know for certain I have one more drunk in me, but don’t know if I have another quit in me. That’s why I cannot say “yes” to the drink that matters…the first drink. That’s why relapse cannot be part of my recovery, because it could very well be the part where my death-spiral begins. I’d rather walk into a den of hungry lions dressed in a 3-piece porkchop suit, than have a go at moderation, because it would be a far less painful death.
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Love it! Thanks for posting
Totally. I dont think it would be okay to cheat on my wife in any form at any frequency.
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Ok, I certainly wasn’t rock rock bottom, not by some standards. I still had a job, a house, a family
But I know how bad my life had got!
But…?
Maybe I wasn’t that bad after all?
Perhaps I could moderate after all?
You know? Now I’ve had a break?
I could go back to just drinking in the pub.
Hahahaha, 
Fuck off!
Why the hell would I risk what I have built up over the last 10 plus months, the life I have regained?
I drank to get pissed, no 2 ways about it. And even with the work I’ve done on my mental health, I still couldn’t see me just having a couple of wines or pints to be social!
No!
I’m happy, my family is happy, why the hell would I put that at risk, just because it’s what everyone else is doing. If they don’t like the fact that I’m not drinking, well that’s tough on them isn’t it?
Hahahaha
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I scared myself this week by waking up feeling almost the same as I was still drinking. Depressed and not seeing a way out. My sobriety is the main reason I am pulling out of it. Drinking or any other drug would only push me deeper under. I know I never can have another one. I am totally happy with that. Moderation is a lie people with substance abuse problems tell themselves. People without those problems don’t need to moderate. They do so naturally. Love the clean and sober me. Relapse would kill me.
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