Well it happened... Day 1, again

Not too sure what to say. I was 6 days clean and this morning I couldn’t tame my impulses. I had watched a movie with my wife last night that had some scenes which triggered me pretty hard. As a result, I had a full relapse…

I do feel guilty, but I understand that there will be trials and tribulations. This is my first time ever going clean, and now I know what I can and can’t handle in my current state. In the future, I look forward to being able to handle myself when temptation occurs.

Gotta come back stronger! I hope everyone is doing well…

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I feel for you. You came here, you are being accountable, and you are going to get back on your sober path and keep at it. That’s what really counts. I well remember before I found this forum, I couldn’t string two sober days together, much less six. Now I’m on 97 and counting. Everyone’s different, but speaking from my own experience, I found the initial weeks more of a struggle, but hang in there, stay dedicated, and ever so slowly the addiction voice will get weaker!
I wish you all the best, and visit often​:muscle:t3::heart:

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Welcome back to day 1 Mingo
Glad you got right back on here.

Keep coming back.
:pray:t2::heart:

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There is a way, and I’ve done so before. The reason it doesn’t really help is because I know many non-traditional ways of accessing it. Most blockers just prevent you from seeing certain sites. However, porn isn’t something that you only find on an internet browser. If you look hard enough you can find it everywhere. Facebook, instagram, YouTube etc.

I say all that because if I set up blockers to stop myself, I know what is blocked, therefore I can just go elsewhere. The only way to truly stop myself would be to cut myself from the internet entirely, or teach myself to resist temptations. I feel like learning discipline would be healthier in the long run. I think I’ve heard the term “urge surfing” used in regards to this topic

I’ve talked with my wife about it numerous times. I haven’t yet told her about my relapse. I will when she’s home. I’d rather not text her about it while she’s at work.

Our DOCs are all around us…whether its booze, drugs, or porn. We can try as hard as we want…but we will happen across it sooner or later.

Triggers do not have to lead to relapse. If we want to be sober we can have a plan to deal with triggers in a healthy way. What was your plan? What didn’t work? What are you going to do moving forward?

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Welcome @Mingo it’s nice meeting you! My name is Matt. It sounds like you and I are recovering from the same thing.

Yep, I’ve been there. I learned early on that I had to be selective with the movies and shows I watch. I take a look at previews, etc; if the previews make me nervous I take a pass.

The majority of my media consumption with my wife now is Star Trek, Star Wars, some action (Jack Ryan), and we love mystery shows (like Monk), all of which (to me anyway) are character- and story-driven, and not triggering.

Reflect about this a bit. It’s early days and you are the captain of your journey of course - I definitely am not negating what you’re saying! I’ve been there; we’ve all been there, in recovery from this - but ask yourself: what other factors might be at play here?

It can be triggering to see scenes which objectify human bodies (the scenes that play to fantasies, and fantasy, for us, is the name of the game), but the unfortunate reality today is that those scenes are so widespread that they’ll pop up now and again no matter how careful we are.

For me I found my pattern of not reaching out for support to other people in recovery, my pattern of trying to figure it out on my own (or being take-it-or-leave-it with the advice I received), my pattern of dysfunctional self-numbing and avoidance / escape in my fantasy world (as opposed to reaching out to others in recovery, and seeking accountability for myself, and doing work with appropriate other people [others in recovery, and medical doctors, and mental health professionals], and working on that one day at a time) -
Those patterns are more fundamental to me, they are closer to the heart of my problem (and my chance to change). My dysfunctional patterns (and more importantly, my neglect of changing those patterns) are what makes me relapse. It’s like clockwork: if I neglect that healthy work, even for one day, I’m playing with fire.

The change I need to do is the change I can control: my communication, my efforts to connect with others, my healthy new (recovery) actions. I can’t control media (and I never will be able to control the stuff that gets put in movies). I can control my choices about building a strong foundation in sober thinking and behaviour - and everything I’ve learned on that journey, every step I’ve taken (progress I’ve made), I’ve learned by reaching out to other people who are in recovery, and applying what I learn (even when it’s unfamiliar).

That’s a lot to digest and I hope it’s not too much; I don’t mean to take up too much space. Thanks!

There’s lots of good resources. Personally my recovery is rooted in the work I do with Sexaholics Anonymous (www.SA.org). SA is all about recovery from a lust addiction - lust, in SA, is like alcohol in AA - and lust can take the shape of just masturbation (if it’s a problem for you, like it is for me) and many other forms as well. The only requirement to join, is a desire to be sober from the obsession of lust.

I also attended several group sessions (over two years) with groups at a sex addiction recovery clinic in my city, which was helpful too.

Here on Talking Sober, if you search “masturbation”, “PMO”, “porn”, or similar terms you will find many threads of people working their way out of this addiction.

Keep searching, keep communicating, keep connecting. Do not give up. Addiction lives in those spaces where we live in our heads, alone; recovery lives in spaces where we make connections with people who can help us (and we can help them - a constructive connection helps both people). Connect, connect, connect!

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It is not a shame to fall … it is a shame to not get back up.
:purple_heart:

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Thank you for such a thorough and well-written response, as well as being able to relate with me. I had a talk with my wife last night about my relapse. She had known about my addiction from issues that it had caused before, but when I made my initial jump to get clean, I tried doing it by myself. The main factors that made that decision for me were shame, lots of guilt, and the idea that “I should be able to figure this out by myself. This is a stupid addiction and shouldn’t need someone’s help to end it”. I had it in my head that if I need help, then I must not be strong enough on my own, which makes me weak.

I now know that this logic is detrimental and isolating. What I’ve learned through this experience is that help is necessary. Obviously no one can fully prevent me from relapsing if I so choose to, but at least being able to reach my wife when I’m struggling creates a safety net and non-biased accountability. You’re correct. Having people to talk to and accepting help does not define my strength. If help is there, why not accept it and seek it out?

Another reason I attempted to do it myself is because my addiction has been the direct cause of some pain in my relationship. The only person I trusted to tell when I took the clean leap, was my wife, but at the same time I didn’t want to hurt her again by telling her I relapsed. Thankfully, she was more upset that I didn’t tell her, than she was upsrt at my actions. She used to have the preconceived notion that if I objectified other bodies, that hers was not good enough. I’ve provided her with TONS of reassurance that this isn’t true, and she’s been extremely receptive, which is contrary to what I expected.

In summary, I’m grateful for your help and your thoughts about my thinking patterns. I see very clearly what you are getting at, and I will work on rephrasing my thoughts so that I’m not shifting blame to things I can’t control. You are absolutely right. These things don’t make my decisions for me, and these things do not control me.

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It’s a journey for sure. Keep it up and don’t give up. It can be done.

I decided early on that I needed people outside my marriage that I could be accountable to. That was part of the reason I attended the sex addiction recovery clinic, and joined SA. I’ve since made several good friends, and I have a long list of recovery contacts, that I can talk to about my day to day struggles and successes (and I listen to them too).

I don’t hide things from my wife (in recovery I’m not hiding anyway, openness and honesty are what keeps me clean), and if she has questions I’m an open book. but I also don’t make her my accountability partner, because for me I found that it was one-sided, and truthfully I didn’t think it was fair to ask her to shoulder that responsibility. It’s not her fight.

It’s one day at a time. Don’t give up :innocent:

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