It felt pretty good. They were drunk and annoying so I didnt stick around long.
The daughters have recently been in trouble for drinking. Dui, totalled vehicles, one daughters boyfriend is a piece of shit drunk. Always causing problems when drunk. Black out angry drunk shit.
They are all supposed to be on good drinking behavior. Drunk on Tuesday.
It made me glad I dont live like that now. Their beer didnt even look tempting tonight.
I like that! Its a nice change!
Yeah bud!!!
The Alano club is a great place! First time I got sober I did 90 in 90 and the majority of them were there. So happy you found it again!
I know your a fisherman and a hellova meme artist. But is your last name really Fisher? 
I had a great piece of salmon last night. I don’t eat much fish cuz I can’t find it nice and fresh up in the AZ mountains. It’s hit or miss at the stores. Do you know, or can you recommend any fresh seafood shipping companies from up there in the Great Northwest?
Fisher isnt my real last name.
Ive been in SLC utah for the summer and Winco has had the best fish Ive been able to find.
I fish out of a small port, and we sell to buyers. My boss has a buyers liscense, and keeps talking about doing something like packaging and selling the fish we catch. When i get back home next month, I’ll see if he has figured it out yet. There is another guy who may be set up already to do that.
We sell most of our fish to Hallmark
http://www.hallmarkfisheries.com/
Pac choice is hallmarks biggest competitor
Well, I had eaten enough shit, that I couldn’t eat another bite.
Their mom contacted me after work Wed, i replied quickly amd didnt hear another word from her until last night.
I knew my youngest has a school function he had to attend regarding school beginning next week. I didnt feel like spending all day there so I didnt worry about it too much.
I had dinner with my cousin who I havent seen in 40 years. After dinner their mom contacted me and invited me over.
So I went and hung out with the boys while they played video games. Their mom left to run errands I fell asleep on the couch, and woke up to use the bathroom around 3:30 she wasnt home. No biggie, I minded my business and fell back asleep.
I smelled coffee, and woke up at 5. Im an early bird. I like to watch the sunrise. But I could hear her cleaning the kitchen, so I fell back asleep.
Im done listening to her. I didnt even want to hear anything she wanted to talk about.
The previous night, she told me shes been doing better about drinking. She started the conversation. It wasnt provoked by me. Im tired of listening to her and everytime we have talked about recovery, she gets weird, angry and pushes me away jeopardizing my visit with the boys. She said we are a team. I just went along with it for the sake of keeping the peace. We were both polite and nice to eachother.
Since I havent been staying there, I enjoy not having to listen to her bullshit.
This morning, I knew she had been out all night, hadnt slept, and was high. Her her pupils were big, and she was cleaning like she was spun. She cleaned the whole time we talked and avoided eye contact. She wasnt finishing anything.
We talked about plans for the day. She was going to Walgreens and going to come back, make breakfast. I offered to make breakfast, but she wanted to.
She left at Ten. Came back at 1:30. I was annoyed. She was wasting another day.
Im so greatful for this forum! I was able to distract myself from getting really angry while I was waiting on her. Memes, participating in recovery threads, and more memes, some photography threads, more memes!
I was able to laugh, and I stayed focused. This is the last weekend i have to share with her. I was ready to just roll with this and make the best of the rest of the day knowing I was going ro take action next week and talk to the sister.
I made a comment about being stuck in her time vortex again, and went outside to smoke.
She came out a few minutes later , pissed off! She was going off on me all ghetto style, head back and forth, hand in the air calling me a piece of shit, fuck you, fuck this, fuck that. Yelling. Her apartment is in the hood so It was kinda funny to me.
But I wasnt laughing.
I told her, im tired of her wasting my time, I dont want to share anymore time when I visit the boys. We are all sick of your time vortex and you stress our oldest out so much that he cancelled his last visit because of her.
I told her your on drugs you drink when they are here, you squandered them away years ago and got in alot of trouble and didnt learn shit from it. Back at her ghetto style.
Which is making me laugh thinking about it.
Her face went blank. I told her why dont you go do some more meth, maybe that will fix everything.
Your hustling drugs, postituting and doing god knows what else, which is illegal and your a shitty prostitute because you can’t even pay your bills.
That pissed her off big time, she drew back and told me she was going to punch me if I didnt shut my mouth. I told her your a shitty parenting partner now and you were a shitty partner when we were married and your a shitty human being in general.
She drew back, I stuck my face out and said DO IT!! I wanted her to hit me so I could call the cops. She didnt.
She told me to get out. I said well shouldnt I at least say bye to the boys. She said I should man up, shut up and go bowling like we had planned before I went out to smoke.
So I did. She dropped us off so she could run errands
I talked to both of them about me not wanting to share time with mom anymore. I didnt say anything bad about their mom. I didnt tell them about our arguement. I just said I think it fair and and I cant do her time vortex anymore. When I make plans, we are going to go have fun, and not wait on anyone. I told them I want them for two weeks in Oregon next summer. I dont want to come to Utah. I told them I was going to call their aunt next week. They were stoked! My oldest gave me her number.
I promised them I would get them each a computer before I went home. I was able to order them yesterday. They arrive Thursday.
I told them I would stay the whole summer, which was hard. I hate it here, everything has been far less than ideal since a couple of weeks after I got here. I’d rather tuna fish than work constuction in the desert. But I kept my promise.
Those are the only two promises I made. I feel good about keeping promises.
We ended up going to Silver Lake this evening. Typical their mom style. We got there a half hour before dark just to have to leave.
Trout were rising like crazy. My oldest hooked a couple. My youngest fished with mom and didnt.
That makes me laugh a little too.
They both gave me giant hugs when they dropped me off. Their mom and I didnt say a word to eachother. I assume im not invited tomorrow or Sunday, but I will go if they call.
I got worked up! Super angry! I didnt call her any names. I used to. Ive called her every name in the book, and I have a PHD in cursing.
Thats a gift of sobriety.
I called her on her bullshit. She had it coming!
A drink feels far away tonight. Labor day weekend. Last summer bash! There will be alot of alcohol consumed this weekend. Not by me!
Good for you for finally calling her out on her bullshit. It was long overdue. Sobriety allowed you to handle that situation without calling her names. Hang in there, it’s almost over. You’ve made some great memories with your boys this summer and put up with a lot of shit to make that happen. I’m so fucking proud of you.
The final stretch is going to be easy with her out of the picture.
I have documented everything she has done this summer in a notebook.
Everytime she had a client come to her apartment. Everytime she was high. Every time she went days without sleeping, everytime She lied to the kids about doing door dashing when she was postituting. Everytime she drank hard alcohol when they were gone, and everytime she drank and drove.
I had a list and proof when we were getting divorced. The courts ignored it because I hacked into her email.
This time i havent invaded her privacy at all. I just wrote it down as I saw it happening.
The court system didnt help me in the past and I have been reluctant to put myself through the torture again.
I keep hearing a commercial at work. An attorney who specializes in fathers rights. Im going to set an appointment for a free consultation next week.
I’m tempted to show my notes to her sister, but I feel like I should do it after my last visit.
I dont feel like the kids are safe unsupervised with her. She drives like a maniac. Super aggressive, no sleep. Plus my oldest is going to be driving soon. She is setting a horrible example.
I witnessed “good” behavior. I can only imagine what shes like when nobody is around.
I triggered her big time yesterday. Alcoholics/addicts usually run to the bottle/drugs for comfort when the shit hits the fan.
Im concerned.
You should be concerned, that’s what we do as sober parents, we want our kids to be in a safe environment at all times. Your ex is doing a lot of the things I did when I was using. I down played every scary situation, especially driving. I thought my daughter had no clue what I was doing. It was a huge eye opener when she told me she knew I was going in the bathroom to do coke every night. Kids know more than we think.
What a great idea to document everything. A free consult is a good way to start. It will give you some idea how far you can take this.
How’s it going, Jason? How was this week? I’m just stalking your thread and getting caught up a little.
I am glad you have been keeping collected and sober. This whole situation could have gone 2 ways, really. It would strengthen your resolve, or break you. I am so proud of the way you have handled the whole thing, and kept sober for the sake of yourself and your children.
I texted the sister and asked her if I could bring the computers over on Friday night. She said she would rather have them at their moms house they already have access to computers there.
I replied that they are safer at her house and I would rather have them there. And i was hoping to be able to
talk to her in person when I did.
She replied that they have a busy weekend and need notice. She said she would talk to her partner about it amd shoot for Sunday which is today.
I havent heard from her, and dont know whether I should try and press it.
Tomorrow Im going to contact an attorney who advertises on the radio station we listen to at work. He specializes in fathers rights and offers a free consultation.
My gut says I should before I talk to her. I want to express my concerns about what their mother has been doing to the sister. Im scared shitless of the aftermath of the war it will start when their mother finds out.
I was hoping reaching out to the sister would make things fairer for me, but Im feeling left hanging while time slips away. The sister has always made it harder for me.
I dont get it, and it frustrates me. I feel all the valid anger I have carried for a decade. I have to keep it cool.
She knows the boys are excited to get the computers. The computers they have access to arent gaming machines. They are gamers and I will be able to play with them from oregon and stay in touch with them every day.
I worry about the swat team raiding their moms and trashing everything.
Plus their mom has never respected anything I have paid for. She leaves their flyfishing gear in her vehicle unlocked. She lives in the hood. Plus her bestie is a low life tweaker. Her clients and friends are all threats to anything nice.
I was pretty stressed yesterday about being honest with her sister about what I witnessed while I was there. Anxiety was bad, I was feeling pretty emotional, sad.
I slept most of the afternoon, and woke up craving a beer, but it passed quickly. Sobreity is important to me, and its easy to shoot down my inner alcoholic these days.
Can you talk to the boys about it if she keeps dodging you? Man, they don’t make anything easy…
Thats the hardest thing is to not say anything shitty about their mom or aunt through this. I told them I was going to try and make it fair. They have a voice. They both understood and agreed.
I feel talking with the attorney is in my best interests.
I was thinking about the computers, they know you bought them… so to have her pull that is crappy…
They were so excited and happy when I told them. I cant tell them why I dont want them at their moms. I wish I could tell them the truth. Its sucks having to tip toe around her bullshit
it sucks worrying about how many days its been since she slept when they are with her
Oy, no kidding. I’m so glad they have you, you 3 will be thick as thieves! 
Talking to the lawyer will hopefully be informational, at least. I wish someone could talk to the sister on your behalf. Its ridiculous you are having to go through your fucked up ex and the sister won’t even give you a few minutes of her time.
You could send me the sisters number and I can shoot an anonymous message about her hooking and drug use. 
I’ve been stressed about all the possibilities that could happen when I do tell her. I want her to protect them but doing so will start a war. It will be my word against hers.
I lost so bad when we got divorced. Same thing. My word against hers.
I dont want to put myself through that
again.
Im trying not to mind fuck it too much.
Their mom has tried to bait me into losing my shit. So grateful for sobriety. Drunken me isnt graceful. Im really proud of myself for how I’ve handled this.
I feel confident that as long as I stay on the path of recovery that its going to work out.
She did; she was thinking of the old Jason. TG you’re above that shit.
