Thank you!
Sad , thanks for sharing that one
I wasnât quite sure where to put this but this thread seemed close.
This article is written by a media writer and director who is in recovery from alcohol (4 years now). In her view, while the shows and movies featuring female alcoholics are sincere in their intent, none of the ones sheâs seen really portray the depths and the details of women and their experiences of alcoholism:
I donât watch many scripted shows with female alcoholics âŚhavenât seen any she mentions. The most recent movie I saw was The Good House and it hit in a lot of ways.
The opinion piece lost me here thoâŚ
The final character Iâm waiting to see on a show with a sobriety storyline is God. The only universal sober experience I see again and again is a religious one. Evangelical, spiritual or scientific, you feel a larger hand guiding you toward life when youâve favoured death. Having the courage to believe that life can be better feels holy. Whether they want to or not, sober people see saints, angels and omens everywhere they look.
Definitely not my experience. Tho perhaps I should look at life more metaphorically to grasp what she is suggesting??
I find more resonance with some movie depictions of women and drinking vs TV shows. Except some of The Housewives who have drinking problems. I find some of their behavior relatable and especially when they grapple with not drinking anymore. The real struggle of Countess LouAnn on The Real Housewives of New YorkâŚmug shot and all. Her bouts of sobriety and then drinking again and then sobriety. Real stuff and I got itâŚas well as friends reactions. Same with Leah and her sobriety or Taylor and her alcohol induced outbursts when her husband was still alive and abusing herâŚand how her friends couldnât believe it all and their incredibly callous approach to something they obviously did not understand. Real life, magnified or mirrored.
Thanks for getting me thinking on this topic Matt!!
Editrd to addâŚnot that my life is anything like The HousewivesâŚha! Just in how they relate to eachother and the sadness, grief, shame and sloppiness of their drinking.
I also think sheâs probably talking big-picture here; I donât think she means âGodâ in a strict traditionally Western, religious sense (though I donât know her, but Iâm assuming based on her words âEvangelical, spiritual or scientific, you feel a larger hand guiding youâ), but instead as a larger pattern.
Sort of like a flower in a garden. The flower grows on its own, but there are unquestionably other forces - earth-level forces like worms, soil, organisms; and forces that are definitely far more powerful than the flower (for example, the sun, a force on which every cell of every organism depends for its life, but which also has the power to exterminate us in an instant) - there are other forces, greater in scope and power, that shape the bigger picture.
If recovery is a flower and we are working to grow, one day at a time, then the more we do to get in harmony (give and take, up and down, learning, growing) with those wider natural patterns and forces, the more we grow.
Anyway that gets a little philosophical - a little metaphorical - but itâs all to say I think youâre right on, I think sheâs being metaphorical here.
I think the story of women in addiction and women in recovery has as many stories as there are women. Itâs a rich, heartbreaking, but also hopeful space for storytelling. There are definitely more stories to be told.
Thanks for posting this. The Flight Attendant showed some of the ugly of alcohol addiction, but it still managed to glamorize consumption as well. Thanks for reminder of The Good House, Sassy!
The book and movie are brilliant! PlusâŚSigourney Weaver!!!
Indeed Matt. For men as well. I harken back to Faye Dunaway in BarflyâŚtho romanticizing (it is Bukowski after all), still personifies the life for some (again, BukowskiâŚthe guy knew his way around a bar). Carrie Fisher had some honest writing and acting portrayals that landed for me as well. Her and her Mom
I am all for it.
Not 100% specifically about recovery but Jasonâs addiction and recovery feature big in this beautiful (IMO) documentary.
Eye-opening! Thank you so much for this. I understand a lot more now whatâs going on inside me and a lot now makes sense!
Love your videosâŚIâm from Detroit and your interviews help us see the person behind the addiction with compassion. Thank you.
Another good video I have posted in the past. Hope you donât mind me reposting it here. Iâll check out the one you suggested tonight!
never had these videos when i got sober only Face to face meetings no internet i went to meetings and it worked that was in the 20th century still sober in the 21st if these videos help people thats great wish you guys well