Are you affected by a loved one who’s an addict?

I hear your strength and all your sadness. I am also sad/relieved/happy that you chose to leave behind a human who is actively addicted and (it sounds to me) deeply unhappy. If I could hug you I would. Yours is the first post I read of the day so you get all my kindness and thoughts of strength today. Please treat yourself kindly.

If you feel sad and lonely today know that I am out here impressed with your badassery (not a real word but very applicable here) because you know your worth. This quote below shows me you still have a fiery spirit. If I could sit next to that fire with you and feed it kindling I would. For now you’ll have to be content knowing I will be rooting for you all day. Now to cry a bit in my coffee. Sending hugs.

:heart::fire:

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Thank you, thank you for your kindness. Now I cry. I want to hug you too. It echoed deep in me what you say about him: deeply unhappy. I think he is very deeply unhappy. I remember when we married. We sat on the couch and he told me: This is the first time in my life that I’m really happy. You, me and the cats, this is our little family now. He was happy. I was happy. We loved each other. If I could bottle one moment in time it would be this.

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Exactly what @TrustyBird said, erntedank. I just want to give you a big hug. You are wise and strong and brave and it’s okay to have zero energy. None, after all of the cumulative losses. Just take time, friend. I would guess the path ahead will be hard, but that you’ve come through the worst of it - the hardest part, with matters most: you. You, your cats, your wholeness and completeness.

Thank you for sharing your world and your light with us. Sending you love and hugs. :orange_heart:

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Many hugs coming your way. :heart::heart::heart::heart:

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Wow. That’s alot. Yet, you are surviving it. I’m sorry it’s so painful. I’m sorry your little princess didn’t get her happy ending (this time). But I’m not sorry at all seeing you becoming alive again after such a long time of hibernating. Like Trusty said, you have fire in your spirit. May that kindle the little princess to grow up to be a Queen who knows her worth and purpose :crown:

You really do need to cut your ex loose, IMHO. I’m sure there’s much more to the mix than what is mentioned but in the end, as long as he is in addiction he would not choose you or life. pls remember his choices are not your fault or responsibility. Addiction is an all consuming fatal disease. We know it.

I wish you peace over the holidays.

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Hey. @erntedank
Been trying to find Time to write a little something my friend. But first. You really write and express yourself so well on here. You have a great way with words and getting your point across on how you feel.
Especially this.:point_down: I almost cried.

You may not feel it or realize it at times but you are an amazingly strong person. I admired you so much. And I worry about you too.

I don’t like to give advice, accept to share what works for me. But you listen to your lawyer and your therapist. Stay the fuck away from him!! He is not a well person. If you must have contact with him do not be alone. Please. Domestic violence and addiction can be a very deadly combination. Please be careful. If your lawyer thinks your ex is a ticking time bomb. You listen to him/her.
Sorry. Not sorry.

Now, I hope you can somehow find some peace going into the Christmas season and new year. Use your friends that you’ve been talking too. They hopefully know all you’ve been going through. I’m so glad you let that out here. And pray for your peace during all this trauma you are going through.
:pray:t2::heart:

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And despite how badly everything ended i thinking bottling that happy memory is further evidence of your strength and hope and resilience. Sad times for sure, but you are not one to stay down. I am in awe of how you are handling this.

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(((((( @erntedank ))))))
Tremendously hard, hurtful and sad year you’ve been through.
Big hugs. xoxo
To a happy and stable future for you, one day at a time. :purple_heart:

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Little by little we go a long way, my friend. I’m sorry for your pain, your loss, and your heartbreak. I would like to think of it rather as a heartsprain, and each babystep is an expression of hope and healing as you work toward a better and happier future. :heart:

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Thank you all for your kindness and good words. :hugs::tulip:

I’m on day 2 after divorce. To be honest, I wish for 2023 all hormonal and emotional rollercoasters to vanish! This is my new years wish.

On monday I felt relieved, even content. Yesterday I had a lot of therapy and a really bad emotional hangover in the afternoon. Today I’m ok. Just ok. Had my last session with the psychiatrist for this year. It helped me to talk with him. He insisted that I cut off any communication. No christmas greetings, no new year’s greeting. This is hard for me. I’m a loving and caring person, such nice little gestures are important for me to give and I never cared if we were angry or had a bad time, I always kept up this traditions. I understand that it is part of letting go. And it is important for my healing. But it hurts and demands a lot of self-discipline. Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Schimanski came on the couch to sleep next to me for the first time! Like he knows that my ex will never come back again to lie here. Schimanski often slept on the couch on our farm together with my ex. Now he comes to me. When things like this happen I feel that everything in the universe is connected and that things happen for a reason. :pray::yellow_heart:

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Last year during holiday season I was something like three weeks sober, when I went for Christmas family dinner. I managed to stay on course, partly beccause I got to watch my dad escalate his drinking that night. It was scary. I saw myself in that. I knew I never wanted to be like that ever again. Memories of that night still haunt me a little. The shameful silence, the impossibility to have a conversation among everyone, the feeling of being torn between wanting to protect my little brother and keeping my dad somewhat happy, so things don’t get worse. You all know, there is no arguing with a drunk person… I notice, that I am quite anxious when I think about family dinner this year. I am trying to brace myself and accept, that his drinkking is not within my control. Still freaking scared. I hate to feel this way.

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Good that you are sober! :pray:
It is a difficult and wearing situation you describe. May I ask if there was any reflection or communication about your dad’s behaviour after last year’s season? Could you express how difficult it was for you and how unwell you felt?

Try to prepare yourself by taking good care of you. Meditate, relax and detach as good as you can. Maybe think about how you want to cope this year if it happens again. Leave? Detach yourself in love in talking to other members of the family? Express your feelings about the situation verbally (not discussing with a drunk person)? Focus on what you love about the get together and leave the rest?
I understand that you are scared. Been in similar situations, it’s not easy. Sending you strenght and hugs :hugs::yellow_heart:

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Thank you for your kind words @erntedank . To be honest, there hasn’t been a reflection or discussion of the subject yet. When I was still early in my sobriety someone pointed out to me that I should take care of my own sobriety first and hope to inspire by example. I kind of let myself off the hook there and avoided the whole topic with my dad altogether. We are not exactly that kind of family where it feels easy to talk about feelings or adress unpleasant emotions. So I’ve been sitting through a bunch of similar situations throughout the year without ever verbalizing it. I just compartmentalized it. Not the best way to deal with it, to be honest. I realize, that now that I am more firm in my own sobriety, it is about time to address this. As for now, I think expressing how the situation makes me feel would be a good first step. :orange_heart:

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You’ve learned so much in your own sobriety Pandita. Especially this :point_up:

I remember the Holidays I use to cut loose and use the middle end of December to January 2 to drink up a shit storm of my own. I try to remember that so I’m a little less judgmental. And I keep the Three C’s with me at all times.

I didn’t Cause it.
I can’t Control it
I can’t Cure it.

Sometimes it’s really hard dealing with loved ones who are alcoholics and cutting loose on the Holidays. But it is a great reminder for me as well, now that I have some sober time under my belt. I don’t ever want to go back to that.

Good luck with your family Christmas gatherings this year. And Huge congrats on doing it sober. Again.
2 more things that help me a lot is to remember. How important is it?
And sometimes doing nothing Is doing something.
Blessing my sober friend :pray:t2::christmas_tree::heart:

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With my family today. I felt better individuated from them than in the past. Their negativity and nagging and general disgruntledness didn’t get to me as much. Other than make me a bit shocked and sad. But it doesn’t creep inside of me like it used to and dissolve my bones. I’m grateful I have a different outlook on life. I work hard at not being that miserable.

My ex celebrated with us as we’ve always done, or most of our years together. It felt right to have him there. No thoughts of not inviting him, he has no other family in our country and he belongs. I enjoyed our time together. I feel very grateful for how our relationship is now. With more breathing space. He’s sadly not at the point where he can enjoy himself yet a lot. He’s very guarded, easily offended, insecure. It made me sad to feel he wasn’t as happy as me, but it’s just his own journey and development, dealing with his stuff. That’s just where he is with himself.
But it feels good that his struggles are not mine now. I can see him clearer for how he actually is, and he feels ever more carefully daring to show himself to me, with his struggles, rather than pretend to be what he thinks I expect him to be (codependency super mode) and avoid everything else. His struggles are just that - and they don’t equate to something that’s being taken away from me because I depend on it from him. Our relationship is a lot more relaxed and harmonious now that I don’t expect from him what he can’t give. I’m also more alone and there’s a sadness there too and a missing. At times when Im not careful I miss how we were. I see him with my family and the dogs and all our old routines and shared memories and I get to missing. But I must remember that a lot of that was him pretending and me believing. He was never actually being as open as I thought he was. It was me who was being genuine and I projected that into him. He was secretly never really at ease but hid that. Part of me does hope, maybe one day, when he’s happier with himself, who knows. But right now I want and have to just let him be on his journey and cheer him on from the sidelines - as he does me, too. That’s a good place to be for us rn.

Wishing you all happy holidays. Hope you’re all well. Wherever you and your loved ones are rn.

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I didn’t write this. But this could definitely be my story. It really hit home for me. I’ve heard we go to AA to stop drinking. We go to Al-Anon to become sane.

         I Learned What Acceptance Meant

I’ve never been an “accepter.” If something needed action (in my mind), I took action to fix it or to advise someone else how to fix it. If someone was hurting, I told them what to do to feel better. If someone was misbehaving, I let them know that what they were doing was wrong and unacceptable.

I was generally successful at managing others with my wisdom and insightful perspective. Occasionally, however, I was unsuccessful. When that happened, I got frustrated or angry, sometimes with myself, but more often with the other person or situation.

It wasn’t until I couldn’t fix what I thought was the most important thing in my life (the alcoholic) that I became overwhelmed with frustration, anger, disappointment, and depression. My love for my wife and my marriage slowly deteriorated, and my life was almost destroyed.

My life, which had once overflowed with optimism and self-confidence, became filled with doubt, fear, anxiety, rage, arguments, fury, and misery. It tore away at what I had always had the most confidence in—my ability to fix others; what was right and what was wrong; and (what was most important for my happiness) how others should be.

Al Anon taught me something I had not been aware of in 55 years of living: I was the one who was broken, I was the one in most need of fixing, and I was the only one I could fix.

It was the first thing I heard at my first meeting, and every meeting since then, “We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.” That First Step was the sound of the jailer’s key unlocking my cell and releasing me to discover a freedom I never realized existed for me.

I heard it with Step One, and then I heard it with the Serenity Prayer. At first, it was hard to grasp. But once I did and accepted the things I was hearing and learning, awareness took over and the rage gradually began to subside. The continuous arguments ceased. The misery turned to hope.

The change came about through acceptance. I learned to accept the realities of alcoholism that I had no control over. To accept the fact that, if I wanted peace, I could only control myself and my own reactions; and most importantly, rather than expecting others to be different, I needed to accept that I was the one who needed to look at my past, and what I needed to work on within me.
Through listening at meetings and reading our literature, I have learned to accept others as human beings with weaknesses and faults, as well as talents and good qualities worthy of respect and admiration.

I have learned to accept what difficulties may be facing me, allowing me to seek a peaceful way to cope with them rather than shooting from the hip. I have learned to accept what others say at meetings because it is true for them, and to accept the fact that I need to go back to those confusing and uncomfortable places of my childhood and adult life, learn what their impact on me has been, and accept what I cannot change, but changing what I can.

By Jeremy S., Missouri February, 2014
From Todays Hope

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Thank you Em, I needed to read this in the morning when I hardly crawled out of bed. I have to talk to myself about boundaries within myself. I’m grateful I can take my time when I need it, no ex nagging about me being lazy when I’m exhausted and low on energy, unable to perform like a duracell bunny (or even a “normie”). I’m grateful this (his) voice in my head appears less and I shoo it with kindness for both of us. He has his own demons, preventing emotions and reflection by working physically all day to exhaustion to not feel nor having to look inside or at me or our relationship. I’m grateful this energy is no longer part of my life, it caused in me so much stress, worry, sadness, frustration and neglect. I re-learn slowly to have a healthy relation with my needs and wants, I neglected them for a long time because I focused on functioning and dealing with our relationship and flipping out regularly over his drinking. I practised detachment with resentment, now I work on detachment and letting go with kindness for both of us. There is still much love in me, this makes it hard. He doesn’t want my love anymore, did not for long before we separated. I believe him when he says he needs quiet and distance from me, he has to deal with a lot on his own because I was his anchor, always there, even when we fighted or he behaved like a complete asshole (mostly caused by his drinking).
Babysteps. Many babysteps also go a long way :pray:
I needed to get this off my chest. Now I feel better. Put it here instead of the gratitude thread because I feel it belongs here.

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I am not really suffering from a loved one being an addict but after some consideration I thought it might be the best thread to put my thoughts in.

On Tuesday a guy from my local f2f contacted me asking for a coffee which we scheduled for today before the meeting. I know that shortly after his 90 days in December I believe he relapsed and is now caught again in his active addiction. So 2 hours ago he texted me saying that he drank again and is too hungover to make it to our appointment and asking for understanding.

I replied that I try to understand and that I hope he will finally get to the point reaching out before he drinks.

Now, I am really thinking (and that’s the point, thinking and not allowing my feelings to get to the surface) and asking myself: do I have to be understanding?
I think I would half smile maybe 20 years ago making fun with someone who drank too much. Bit this is different. Well that’s what I feel. To be honest I am angry and I am not understanding as I feel like he is asking me for permission und supporting his drinking.

Vent over.

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Sorry to hear that. It is a hard to bear this side of being in active addiction: DOC comes first, rest of the world last, inbetween the cycle of using, coming off, using again …

It’s ok to be disappointed about the cancelling. Angry? Hell, I’m still angry on my ex that swigging beer was more important than talking to me, coming home on time, being reliable …
To be honest: That’s part of addiction. When you know somebody is actively using, you know the person is NOT behaving like a sober/“normal” person. Expecting it is foredoomed disappointment causing resentment. For me being drunk or hungover never was an excuse to dismiss the person being held responsible. This can be seen differently. For me being drunk or hungover never was an excuse for anything. On this point I’m pretty hard on myself and on others.

For me it is awfully hard to let go on this feelings, sometimes I just give up for the day and try the next day again. First of all: Be kind to yourself. Have a look where your feelings really come from. Maybe there is something within you that wants to be adressed with awareness?

You are not alone with this feelings. Vent away, it helps to get them out. Hugs :people_hugging::sunflower:

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My dad od last night and i had to call into work cuz my heads everywhere and i cant function right atm. Been sober 7 months and this was a real test that i have no idea how i passed. Almost didnt when i saw the liquor section. Went to the hospital and stayed a bit till he had to have a xray to see if his sternum was cracked from the chest compressions. Im going to see him in a few mins to talk with him. Idk what else to do at this point.

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