In the Rooms has video meetings.
Oh great! Letâs do away with the sickly and the old so we can have a great economy!
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The sickly and the old are the ones who SHOULD be getting the hosp âŚ
Fuck it, Iâm out.
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Funny that people think itâs so simple to just complain about the quarantining because of what it will do to people and the economy, but expect that if those precautions arenât taken there will somehow be enough room for the flood of sick people rushing into the hospitals.
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Please do not twist my words and make them say something they dont.
This what I said.
In response to this
Your response was
However⌠if we continue to live as a normal civilised humanity who washed their hands and took precaution as we are all supposed to do anyway, we could actively go about our daily lives, not put a halt on economic infrastructure for a virus that most people will recover from if they even pick it up. And if people were informed correctly without the professionals findings being twisted into fear mongery, hospitals would not be as stretched to find beds for the elderly and the sick.
But thatâs alright. People shouldnt get emotionally involved.
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There have been more homicides in nyc this week than deaths from corona.
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You understand what I mean though. Unfortunately, we dont live in a utopian society where everyone washes their hands at all times. Thatâs what makes the measures taken so important.
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Absolutely. Follow precaution.
That way:
My 75 year old Grandmother who has Multiple Sclerosis and a heart problem can get a bed in hospital if she needs it.
My 76 year old Grandfather and his wife who have just gone into remission from invasive cancer treatments can see their general practitioner when they need them.
My Dad can get his 7 daily prescription tablets from the pharmacy (which he has paid for) when he needs to.
My brother can get insulin for his type 1 diabetes as and when he needs it.
My sister and brother wont have to drive 20 miles away from their houses to buy baby formula for their newborn sons because the shelves in the shops have been wiped out by needless panic buying.
This is why Iâm emotionally charged about this whole thing and Iâm not even directly affected⌠Why arenât you?
Edit: Oh! And meanwhile, people over 70 are being told to stay indoors and self isolate for up to 12 weeks!?!? This isnt care! This is more like a cull!
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I know plenty of people who are in really difficult situations because of the shut downs. I never said that it hasnt affected me or that Iâm not concerned. Iâm just saying that the precautions are completely necessary.
Itâs wrong of people to hoard supplies. Itâs annoying. We have been affected by that as well. But, I understand that people are irrational and that cant be helped.
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Precautions, yes. But this is just reckless.
Anyways⌠itâs like 4.30am. Long live utopia!
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Thatâs a lot to look after, @anon84416494. Made harder with the rug yanked from under us.
Be well, mate, and the family.
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Oh dont get me wrong, theyâre all independent and looking after themselves - but theyâre my family who need what they need and everybody has loved ones in similar or worse conditions. Itâs not special, itâs not unique and itâs not unmanageable for them but I guarantee, my little corner of the world will be a piss in the ocean of what and who is affected if we allow the infrastructure holding us all up to collapse.
All the best bud.
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We have to completely change how we are working and the service we provide for the foreseeableâŚlike alot of services
And oddly i feel less inclined to drink than ever
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Because drinking is not going to solve any problems.
Being sober and level headed will help us deal with problems, help us adapt and overcome.
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That and the fact i will beâ working from 6am to 9pm most days for abit
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Cool, though work didnât stop me from drinking!
Stay strong my friend 
Again with the unsubstantiated figures.
This app is a great place for support for addicts.
As addicts we should be used to dealing with living life One Day At A Time.
There is no reason why we should live any different now.
Can we keep this app as support and not throwing out indiscriminate âfactsâ that are aimed at scaring an already scared population.
Come on guys, letâs not turn this app into Facetube, full of BS.
Letâs support each other, like we are supposed to.
Rant over.
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MD and DC are doing the same, plus closing all theaters, gyms, health clubs. I expect VA to follow suit, today.
My bride and I went to our favorite neighborhood restaurant, last night. Figured it would be the last opportunity to do so, for a time.
We are actually looking forward to clearing out our meat freezer. Itâs pretty much full, as we had our regular delivery at the end of January.
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Something that people arenât even consideringâŚ
With all these shut downs people with mental health and addiction issues arenât able to get the support that is vital to staying alive. Literally staying alive. Hopefully someone will be keeping the figures of how many extra overdoses and suicides, as well as people dying from unaided, un planned detoxes, there are. People canât go see their their therapists. People canât do detoxes at outpatient facilities. Most inpatient detoxes arenât taking new people. Meetings are shut down all over the world. People will be relapsing at a huge rate right now. This shut down is signing the death sentence for so many of us!
I understand the needs and reasons for parts of this shut down. But am I the only person that is worried about my fellow addict? They are closing all liquor stores here effective 9 PM tonight. I am actually making sure that a woman that works for me knows so that she can prepare. Chances are that she would die if forced to suddenly stop drinking and thereâs not any other help out there for her right now. Itâs fucking sad. The people I see at my recovery center, the ones who were struggling to get to detox, the ones who are hanging on to their dual diagnosis issues, barely making it through, struggling to live even for today, these people arenât getting their support.
I understand worrying about the elderly and sick, I worry about the regular customers who came in to my restaurant even on the day before we decided to shut down, despite all worries and advice not to, but have we really forgotten the people who will struggle to live through this because of issues like our own? This virus may have very little effect on people younger that 70 or 80 years old, or people who are considered by the global community to be healthy, but the fallout for the people who have always been left behind, the people who may be 18 or 30 or 50, OUR people, this has a huuuuge effect on them.
I am not saying that most of these precautions arenât somewhat necessary, but letâs not forget about the people who may never make it back to this forum because they have their last relapse. The people who have been told thousands of times to go to a meeting, get face to face support. Thatâs not an option anymore. The people who need their therapists and their IOP groups and other groups. Thatâs not an option anymore. The people who have a little bit of clean time but are facing forced isolation and are struggling with thoughts of using or ending their life. Where is the help for them? Like I said, I watched many elderly people, some of them with their walkers and care nurses in tow, come into the restaurant despite being told it wasnât safe to be there, or anywhere with so many people. I was glad to see them, but also concerned that they werenât doing their part. Now we are all forced to be without the basic needs that WE need to remain safe and alive.
Thatâs how I feel right now.
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Yes. Whenever someone asks me if I am afraid, I know itâs because they are afraid. I have a choice in that moment. I can say, âyes, I am afraid, letâs panic togetherâ, or I can remember that we âare not descended from fearful menâ.
We humans have survived Ice Ages, plagues, wars, famine, and all manner of calamity. Our success did not flow from turning in upon ourselves, and turning on others. Weâve survived because we are smart, adaptable, and most of all, we cooperate and share knowledge and resources.
About a year ago, I was at a vendor table show for my previous employer. I was set up across from the Purell table. My company sold purell too, and I had some on display along with other office products. When the show was winding down, the purell rep came over to me and told me she needed to get to the airport, and asked if I could help her out by taking her remaining samples, otherwise sheâd have to box them and ship them back. I did, stuck them in my basement, and forgot them.
A few weeks ago, as supplies of hand sanitizer, wipes, etc were being wiped out, I discovered I had this. Now, my first instinct was to keep them, but I remembered we have plenty of our own in our family stocks. I could sell them on Ebay, for a small windfall. No. Thatâs not why the Lord put these in my hands. The stuff that was full cases, I gifted to my customers, who were most appreciative. But I still have some thatâs loose, broken cases, lots of odds and ends. Sample sized bottles and wipes, mostly.
I am just giving them to random folks. I want them to know that weâre in this together, and a little help from one to another will defeat a virus thatâs spread one to another. Itâs not hand sanitizer. Itâs love. Love is action, not feeling.
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