When moderator @Dazercat disciplines us: “This hurts me more than it hurts you”. But we’ll know the discipline is out of love.
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Lol aha, that’s so spot on! And he’ll be convincing at it too!! 
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You’re right he did just 48 posts in the last 24 hours.
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He might be trying to keep his nose clean for the new job.
Can’t get caught up with the riff raff here.
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It wasn’t me 
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This is the best and funniest the derailment thread has been I love it
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In Chile too! We found this in a very uber educational Zoom. A very intellectual conversation about toilet swirls that occur below the equator 
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Don’t want to derail …
Didn’t know where to put it. You cannot say Germans have no humour. It’s a speed limit sign to reduce noise on a bridge crossing a 6 lane highway.
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That’s pretty ridiculous! Taking German precision to a whole ‘nother level.
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This is one for the meme thread A real life meme! Ich höre den Amtsschimmel wiehern 
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Für mich fasst das die Umweltpolitik schön zusammen. Aber keine Politik hier 
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Perhaps us AAs need to ignore this post lol and not even go there (ironic I’m replying now lol). I actually discovered a whole bunch of specifically “AA hating” groups on Facebook, and a few similar videos on YouTube. Maybe OP would find plenty of likeminded people there.
Jives aside, it’s nice to see the spectrum of people in recovery here, albeit at times debating certain ideas, doing so for the most part respectfully. That being said I don’t think controversy necessarily is helpful to some in recovery, nor is aa, but again, that’s probably my AA brain talking lol. I’ll spare the quotations of AA literature to back that up 
. Personally I’m from New Zealand, and other than government sponsored (usually legally imposed) drug treatment and private counselling, I really don’t know where else to go to get recovery! I went through councilling, and government sponsored drug treatment. Personally, for me that really didn’t seemed to do it. But aa has… almost three years sober… I do find people who do recovery without aa interesting, but also somewhat intimidating, perhaps because I really don’t know anyone like that. I was so alone in my using, I really didn’t even think people that got sober were tangibly accessible to me. Boy did AA change that! Peace n love 
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I’m not religious yet I work a 12 step program, I’m free to do this or stop whenever I want. I also choose to use the word God for a power I have found inside of me. Yes it is my imaginary friend and I’m likely mad or schizophrenic but it’s better than the madness my mind was in before and I’m sober with a routine to share with my sponsees who are also sober so who gives a shit what anyone else thinks.
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The concept of free will has never become moot to me. It is of utmost importance. Without it, I would not be abstinent.
Maybe the moderators can move those comments to the derailment thread?
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