Also, random thing but! You’re so stunning! I want those eyeliner skills haha~! 
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Thank you!! That is so sweet 
lots and lots of years of practice haha
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We are moving next month and I’m hoping to set up a cute vanity so I can do more makeup! 
I have some amazing Juvia palettes I wanna use more~! Hoping now that im not drunk 24/7 my hobbies will resurface lol!
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Yes!! That sounds awesome! I saw I’m your bio that you’re from CO? What part? I’m in the springs!
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Oh heyyyyy! I’m right on the southern border in Tdad! 
I love going to Springs for a little day trip now and then for the Asian market~! 
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Oh okay nice!!
My car is my higher power!! 
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No disrespect.
I’m spiritually challenged myself.
I think the energy could be put to better use instead of a sober atheist social media crusade.
I don’t think anyone in AA who truly practices the principles of the program cares what anyones spiritual beliefs are.
I have found enough loopholes around the word God to work for me.
Nobody cares if Jesus or a rock is your higher power. If they do, then they have some work to do on themselves.
I’m not as active in AA as I could be, but it has helped me just by having a room full of people who are trying not to drink on a daily basis. They share their experience strength and hope based on that.
Religion or the word God is rarely discussed.
Atheists aren’t hiding or ashamed that participate in AA.
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The point is we don’t feel comfortable in AA, nothing else.
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There aren’t any members that felt comfortable being there when they got there.
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That’s … not related though, that’s just nerves. That’s a whole other type of anxiety.
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How do you know what everyone feels?
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I just opened an udon noodle pack for lunch and it had mold in it. 😵💫😭 Booo
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Oh no! That’s horrible! 
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I feel like this thread is turning into something it wasn’t supposed to be…the OP is looking for like minded people to build an atheist based support system and instead it seems as if there are some that are still listing good things about AA which the OP specifically voiced they are not comfortable with… I don’t believe the OP was looking for debates or having their beliefs questioned… I think we can all be respectful and if this post pertains to you that is great! If AA works for you and you’re happy with it there are lots of threads for that 
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You can flag any posts you feel are off topic. Its anonymous. And the moderator team reviews them 
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Doesn’t matter to me what people believe in, as long as they don’t push their beliefs on me.
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I support any program that helps someone maintain sobriety and no one should feel or be excluded due to, or lack of, religious or spiritual beliefs…
That said, I don’t get the controversy….
A.A. PREAMBLE
Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of people who share their experience, strength and hope with each other that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism.
The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for A.A. membership; we are self- supporting through our own contributions. A.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy, neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
To me and in my experience, my beliefs (and everyone else’s) were irrelevant in AA as long as the point was to maintain sobriety. I don’t understand why being an Atheist, Agnostic, etc…, is controversial…?
Not debating the OP and I personally have no issue with Atheism, Agnostic or religion.
All that matters to me is staying sober.
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I grew up in Utah. My family didn’t belong to the dominant religious organization there. I grew up with people constantly trying to convert me.
Many of their beliefs don’t make any sense to me. I feel the same about all organized religions.
When the courts sent me to AA as a punishment for drug and alcohol related trouble. The first thing I saw when I read the 12 steps poster on the wall was the word GOD. I didnt hear anything beyond that. I shut myself off and I didn’t get anything out of it. I wasnt done drinking and drugging yet, so it didnt really matter what anyone said. I wasnt teachable.
15 years later when I beat myself into a teachable submission a friend took me to a meeting. I was willing to try new things. I learned that my perception of AA wasnt what it is. I learned loopholes around the word god, and I stayed sober for nine years and ten months.
I learned about the principles behind the steps. Principles do what they do. They don’t need an invisible sky daddy to work.
When I have tried to turn over my will and my life to an invisible sky daddy I’m always let down.
Being sober and seeking spirituality because I wanted to define the word god has been good for me. I have investigated every avenue I know of. Knowledge is power. Being open minded is important. I don’t have to buy anything without investigating it. I can study it from every angle before I decide to keep it. Clarity of mind from being sober is important to not taint the quality of my research.
In meetings, l hear people say how they didn’t do anything. God did it all for them. I find it cringey, but in between their cringey moments I hear some valuable info to help me stay sober though similar life challenges I have been facing. Take what you need and leave the rest.
I got bored with AA and started listening to other ideas. One of the ones that had a huge impact on me was that if you deal with all your issues from the past then you wont allow yourself to get lost in alcoholism again. You can have a drink responsibly.
I tried that and failed. False information for me. During my eight year relapse I twisted my thinking into hating AA. When I first found this place, I talked a lot of shit about AA and ruffled some feathers. I wasn’t successful at staying sober either.
Now I’m sober and comfortable in my recovery most of the time. I’ve been to 10-15 meetings in my two year four months and twenty days of sobriety.
Most of those meeting was when I was in Utah summer before last cleaning up wreckage of my past. I was way out of my comfort zone being in Utah. Those meetings were awesome!
I like to celebrate milestones there too. They will make you a cake. How cool is that? I have met amazing people who aren’t religious, and it reaches out into the community. I see them around town. It’s cool.
I’m not advocating or saying that you have to go to AA to stay sober. I haven’t been to a meeting in months. 99% of my recovery support has been here. I’m just saying don’t eliminate a very powerful recovery tool from your tool box because of the word GOD. That tool may come in handy one day.
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