I am pretty sure the last word there was spot on!! 
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Carl Sagan says it much better ā¦
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Thank you guys for sharing, Iām sorry for coming off as rude, I am only about 3 months in and really focusing on having contact with my higher power and it was a struggle to turn me into this person so it kinda rocked the boat reading all that stuff. I guess I just wanted to see if I was alone in these ideas I was thinking and if Iām crazy, Iām starting to think Iām kinda nuts, the alcohol is gone but the spiritual malady, restless, irritable, and discontent are still there. I apologize again to everyone on here if I rubbed you the wrong way. I wanted to hear I wasnāt nuts in having those thoughts but it didnāt work out like that and thatās ok.
God, grant me the serenity, to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference,
In this situation I did not have the wisdom to know the difference. 
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You are doing fine. We all question our brains and what the heck is going on in early days. And you happened to hit here at a volatile time, it happens. All are welcome, even those who challenge us. 
Keep reading and interacting, it helped me a lot.
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The 10 PM Candle light meeting is my favorite there. When I was there last Covid was still pretty new. They had the meeting outside. It was awesome. Summertime.
When I got sober in SLC the first time that stuck. It was inside. I liked the dark atmosphere, being new I felt like I was hidden better.
It was cool to see it around still.
As much development that has happened there, Iām surprised whoever owns that property hasnāt cashed in yet. I hope they never do.
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Itās not at all wrong to believe that! But it is very much an AA thing. Or a religious thing. And not everyone subscribes to that. I think itās a good thing that there is no one right way to be sober. Because if one thing doesnāt work for us we can try something else!
There is only one atheist thread and many more that are based on religion, particularly Christianity. Most threads are philosophy neutral and/ or inclusive, which I think is the best thing about this forum! Having the chance to interact with people who think differently to me has enabled me to learn so much.
I believe the phrase ātake what you need and leave the restā is quite widely used in AA. It definitely applies here too 
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No. Nothing wrong with that. But itās called ābeliefā for a reason.
I can understand this sounds confusing. On the other hand, do you know the real you ? Iām over 2,5 years sober now and just starting to get to know the real me.
Read 1 John 4.
because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
If God is in you, doesnāt that mean you can be your HP ?
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I donāt know the real me, and in a world where there is so much different information and beliefs it is confusing and sometimes frustrating. I want to apologize to everyone on this forum for being frustrated yesterday and speaking about it. I should have realized what I was saying was hurtful to some and I want to apologize to all the members of that thread that I had a disagreement with and to everyone on this forum, Iām human and make mistakes and Iām just trying to find answers for myself to give me hope and to feel contentment in this world. For me losing the alcohol left me with my spiritual malady, restless and discontent. And my relationships have suffered due to this. Itās like Iām almost a worse person which is scary. A higher power gave me a light at the end of this dark tunnel and thatās just what I chose to believe to try to keep on going. This isnāt the right way but my way that is somewhat working. And I need to not stir the pot because Iām getting feelings of confusing and discontentment but just encourage everyone, keep an open mind, and mind my own damn business sometimes. I love you all.
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It can be information overload. When I got here, I was going to be sober on my own. Lasted 89 daysā¦walked into AA. I am now 4 years sober. However, like you said, there is so much information out there. So, I made a decision. I am embracing all that is out there, and now dedicating myself to a new recovery program. One, that will be a little uncomfortable, because it will challenge some of what I believe in. I feel, that challenging will only enhance my sobriety and in the end make me stronger. To be blunt, if I am wrong about itā¦I can always go back to what I know. I just dont want to stagnate in my sobriety, and I want to learn other methods.
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So youāre one of us 
Yes, there is a lot of info with different approaches. It doesnāt matter which ones yiu prefer, as long as your way suits you.
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You are finding what works for youā¦that is part of the journey. And you are discovering that different things work for different people, as well as the world is full of so many differing belief systems and ways of being. It is a lot to take in!
And in my experience, many of us here also went thru a similar journey of frustration and discovery and so many feelings.
My thought is try not to be so hard on yourself. We are all humans, doing our best and learning and growing. Who I am when I came here 5 years ago is different than who I am now. Sobriety, recovery, life are all journeysā¦there is no finish line when we know it all or understand it all or have perfected our selvesā¦well, at least not that I am aware of.
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Thank youā¦ As you said we are all human. And in a stumble like this we should have instead the negativity. Helped you. And again I think thatās the point of this group we are fragile and were all learning from our mistakes and learning to recognize when we are making them or when others are making them. We should be apologizing to you for not catching you when you needed us the most in that stumble. Your always welcome on here. Keep your chin up and lets get back on track.
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Something that has been very helpful for me to remember through the difficult times!
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Same here! I come back to it often. Another tattoo I should get!
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Candle light meeting does sound pretty cool.
I really hope they donāt sell either. The building is unique and Iām really over all the new soulless buildings being put in. And to be honest, if I ever decided to go to a meeting that would be the place.
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Thank you
How are you doing ? Iv not been on here much past few days but i have read through each night. Its 4:30am here in the uk.
Well since you asked! Lol 
Grateful for my sponsor and my AA home group.
Anxiety attacks are coming back strong in the mornings. Canāt sleepā¦1:15 A.M. here.
Dealing with my job which is imploding. My wife and daughter refuse to move for a new job until my daughter finishes high school. That is in 2 years. I just donāt know if I can wait, due to my company implodingā¦ugh.
Iām speaking with recruiterās about positions and Iām applying. I have to get out of my situation. Very stressful and intense working environment. Iām the CEO, so the pressure is off the charts.
If I take a new job, I would move separately from my family for two yearsā¦crazy, but I may not have a choice.
I took a DNA genetic test to see what anti-anxiety and anti-depressants work best in my body as well as a folic acid test. Amazing science and Iāll be speaking with my psychiatrist this week about the results. My anxiety is through the roof, so Iām thinking the medication Iām on is not the right one.
Grateful to be with my family and grateful for my pets 
I hadnāt been meditating lately, need to get back into it. Reading the Bible and Big Book consistently and that helps. Learning how to pray too. Just heard about this site Daily Stoic. Pretty cool! https://dailystoic.com/
I should try to sleep 
Talk soon ~
Mike
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Im sorry to hear you have some difficult decisions to make, that as you said may become actually not a choice in the end. I do hope it works out for you.
Definitely alot of pressure to deal with
I read about that test to see what meds will work best, i hope you get the right help through the results.
Iv tried 7 antidepressants over the past 2 years, i dont think the dr knows what to do with me any more .
I had the mental health team appointment on friday morning, wasnt the greatest they want to try a different medication and reading this post i may suggest they do this test for me, as it is hard taking medications that may or may not work but also mess with chemical balance in our brains whilst beating an addiction is scary for me, all of us.
I do alot of research, the way id been feeling lately my dr prescribed benzos, iv never had a problem with them but use them scarcely as im always nervous and anxious and know they arent a long term solution.
I really hope your appointment goes well, and in a perfect world everything ends up working itself out at work.
Il check out the link, never heard of it before. And if you ever need a chat and im around you dont have to wait for me to ask how you are, my ears and support is here for you
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My spouse is going to take the DNA test. In the meantime he just started a med with a very low dosage at night. Hope it helps him. At this point, heās not easy to live with on a daily basis.
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