Interesting article for anyone skeptical of AA


#62

It’s nearly impossible to scientifically study recovery, because it’s almost all self reporting. The population is hard to follow bc they relocate. It’s hard to determine who was in a program to truly recover and who wasn’t. There’s so many variables that pretty much every study comes out as useless.


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#64

Lol, people can get and stay sober without AA though. In fact, in the research I’ve done almost half of newcomers stop showing up after the first few meetings. This is purely anecdotal, but both of my grandpas each had over 35 years of sobriety before passing away, and they didn’t use AA. I’m not knocking it. I’m just saying it would be nice if those that did attend AA didn’t knock others for trying a different method. :wink: at the end of the day, keep doing whatever it takes to keep ya sober.


#65

@NewPerspective you always have us my friend.


#66

No, AA is challenging to study because it’s anonymous. Therefore data isn’t collected by them. But, then again, if there’s a possibility that they’re not as successful as they claim, why would they want to flaunt that?


#67

Like I said, I’ve tried a lot of them and they all have their benefits. What I’m saying is it’s not good to try and disprove one way because of your own personal anecdotal evidence.


#68

I’m not. But, people who come here and are on the fence about AA get everyone jumping down their throats telling them to keep going until they find a meeting they like (which can be very discouraging), whereas maybe they’d actually benefit from a different program. :woman_shrugging:t3:


#69

I will also say, coming from a mental health background, I think AA (and other programs) would be even more successful if people worked on their mental health needs alongside their sobriety needs (just my two cents though).


#70

How is the advice concerning AA there any different than much of what we do and say elsewhere in life?


#71

What do you mean?


#72

AA encourages outside help. Whether people do so is not within their domain.


#73

Thank you for posting this. I am 323 days sober and found that AA was not for me. I went to an outpatient rehab that was also AA based, and although it helped me detox and get on the right path, I dreaded every AA themed moment. It’s not for everyone.


#74

I’ve never been to a meeting where they’ve encouraged anyone to get professional help. What I will say though is a common theme I’ve noticed is a ton of underlying trauma that has been unaddressed. Also, it’s been a while since I’ve read the big book front to back, can you point me in the direction where it states that?


#75

I agree. Once my mental health was salvaged, after about 3 months sober, I found it blissfully simple to detest alcohol.


#76

I’m so happy that you were able to work on both :heart:️ having control and a better understanding of both concerns definitely aids in recovery!


#77

The founder of AA actually encourages people to seek outside help as he did. I work in the recovery field myself and encourage all of my clients to seek counseling for mental health and addiction, as well as attending self help groups.

This is why these types of articles are not helpful. People without an understanding of the program trying to tell people why not to do it.


#78

I mean he went to rehab, which is not the same thing as working on mental health issues.


#79

Everyone’s story is different. For me, as a mental health professional who has also had a boat ton of therapy, I can honestly say that I have done more work on my mental health since going to AA than I ever did before.


#80

Right! As I said, if the program works for you, then that is awesome. But, to constantly shove it down everyone’s throats, when it may not benefit them, is absolutely foolish. And obviously no one here is going to agree with me and I’m okay with that :woman_shrugging:t3:


#81

Where are you getting this info from? It’s even in the AA literature that AA does not have a monopoly on recovery and encourages people to seek the help they need elsewhere