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Congratulations Stella. Way to gooo!!
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Hey sugar freaks 
I’m actually looking for opinions, I would value y’all’s opinion on this situation. @Chiron if you could keep it under 5 pages 
Oh and since this is not a moderation app if you would prefer to PM me that would be fine.
So I’m coming up on a year of this no sugar thing I started. 11 months Tuesday. I’ve kinda always thought after a year I could have a dessert once and awhile when I’m out at a nice restaurant. I don’t think I’ll be buying any for the house. But once and awhile it would be a nice treat. I do not think this is the case with me a booze. I know I can never have a drink once and awhile. Then again I don’t want to go back to my sugar snacking monster days ever again either.
I’m very competitive and I think that has help me a lot in my sobriety. I’m gonna do sober longer and better than everyone else. Just like when I was drinking. And I really want to make it one year on this sugar or no sugar adventure and I know I can.
So here’s my blessed situation. I know I’m truly blessed to have this as an issue. I feel silly even asking y’all about it, but here we are.
I’m going to be on a trip of a lifetime in France on a boat. There will be a chef and there will be wine vineyards and drinking. Which I feel very strong that won’t be a problem. And no I’m not going to ask if I can taste wine and spit it out or Can I ? No! There will probably be a pastry chef somewhere on board. A French pastry chef 
and I’m thinking 
there might be some of the nicest desserts I’ll ever come across. So I’m thinking why shouldn’t I have a desert after dinner once and awhile if it looks sooo good. I’ve already told them I don’t do sugar. And I’d be having cheese for desert please. I know it’s my journey. And it isn’t like booze. I know I can’t sample a nice French red. But…… what would y’all do? I welcome any suggestions.
@Alisa
I’d like to add you guys as well.
@ShesGotMoxie
@SoberWalker
@Faugxh
No answer is also fine.
I’m grateful for y’all.
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Asking a lot from me, aren’t you? 
I can tell you what I have done in the past when it comes to very special occasions. As long as I wasn’t on a very strict keto type situation, or some other very strict dietary measure, but still keeping sugar low, I would allow for something that I might not normally have–something that was truly a very special treat. This would be considered and decided before hand and not a spur of the moment.
So, if I was in a similar situation as yours, I personally would probably think of the conditions for which I would have a dessert, and how I’d approach it. What kind of desserts are special enough? Will you give yourself this allowance every night or will you choose a certain number of times? Things like that. This is a deliberate choice, not a whim.
I might even decide that for anything that is more than a few bites, I would either share it or only eat half. A bite or two of something shouldn’t physically affect you negatively, if you’re not too sensitive, and you will still have the opportunity to sample some truly special items.
I think it all boils down to what is most important to you, but that’s how I would (and have in the past) approach this kind of situation. All said in three paragraphs. 
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Is that it?
Beautifully put.
I like your sharing part. Because I was just thinking on my walk. I can still just get the cheese and fruit plate. My wife never eats all of hers. On any kind of dish. Even a cookie. She’ll say she can’t finish it and offer me some. How can you not finish a cookie? She would probably be happy to let me share. And I think being selective in what I try is good.
There’s a psychological thing about not making it a year and starting my counter over that’s honestly bothering me. But after I make it a year I was going to re-evaluate this no dessert thing anyway. 11 months 12 months. It doesn’t matter really. I’ll miss being Moxies twin. .
I do appreciate and value your opinion. Always. Especially 3 paragraphs . I just don’t have the attention span. You did good my friend. Thank you very much.
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If I where you?
For me the sugar thing is a replacement for the wine thing 
So being on a boat in France with good food and plenty drinks and not allowed to eat any sugar is a no go for me. I think I would drink instead.
So if I where you I would loosen up the strings a bit so you can enjoy the chance to say yes to a special desert. You only live once and doing great with being sober! So give yourself some air to breath and relax.
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I would enjoy my trip, eat the deserts and start over again.
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Thank you.
I deserve a treat.
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That’s what I thought you’d say Twinnie
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I have to pretty much second @Chiron here. While sugar is absolutely a drug, I would put it in a different category harmwise and say…alcohol, cocaine, cutting etc.
That being said…for me…added sugar is almost always off limits. I don’t like the way it makes me feel and it’s absolutely addictive for me. Caffeinated coffee is much the same.
Me four and a halfyears ago, would have woken up, grabbed a bottle of champagne and started drinking it (to take the edge off) while making myself an entire box of velveta shells and cheese to help my hangover (this with both a gluten and dairy intolerance!). After that was done, a few bumps to bring in some energy, and then shots of whiskey bc about them I’d feel ready party all over again.
I don’t do ANY of that crap anymore.
SO….when I am doing something special, like a getaway, trip or celebration…I write out what I can and can’t indulge in. Because I didn’t get sober to allow myself NO excitement!
Writing it out makes it real, gives me structure, and allows me to use my reasoning brain (not my in the moment craving addict brain) to discern where my line is.
That’s just my two cents though. Sounds like an amaaaazing trip!
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for me the sugar thing has always been about moderation on the large scale, that’s what fucked me up in the past - white bread, pasta, rice, nutritionally speaking all no diff from sugar, so where do I draw the line?
the line for me would be, as you mention, to turn back into a sugar craving freak in my normal life … eating m’nms outta the bag like an ass in my own house, or chocolate out of the rubbish bin (again).
I would most certainly think of a way to reduce the potential caloies of all the added desserts, I would half the portions or sth. I would stick to my weights training even on the ship (is it a ship?), you can do sth sporty too. and I would make damn sure to go back to the no added sugar after the trip, not bring it into the house, all that. not get in a rut again.
but also I’d allow myself to eat nice things on the trip. it sounds like a once in a lifetime type deal which is awesome. you can do this and not let it take over your life again, I’m pretty confident there.
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Thank you Ely. Good idea writing it out. Or having a plan.
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Thanks Faugxh. I always appreciate your wisdom and experience.
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I swear It gave me headaches when I over indulged. And I’m a big weenie when it comes to headaches. So ya. I’ll also not over indulge and if it makes me feel like shit I’ll just stop again.
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So far so good today, I took grapes to the meeting today and lucky I did cuz someone brought in a bunch of nutter butters lol I made it through without taking one.
I feeling im hijacking a thread though. Sorry if I am…
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Good for you.
The thread is for whoever wants it. Highjack away.
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@Dazercat thanks Eric. I have not been on this app long and working through the navigation and jumping in thing lol
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You’re not high jacking…this is what it’s all about! Way to go planning ahead! Plus grapes are delicious 
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Well, I’ve made it a whole 24 without added sugar. Not gonna lie, the ice cream my sweet neighbor gifted us looks awfully tempting but my tight jeans are begging me not to give in 
I think I’ll beg my family to make it disappear before the night is through lol
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Oh man, way to stay strong! Nutter butters are one of my favorites from childhood. I don’t buy them because I’ll eat them all within a few days
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