To be honest, I see it from my observations from my involvement with SAA, other 12 step meetings, Blazing Grace forums, NoFap, and TS. No, I don’t have any statistics. But my observation over the past 30 years is that the vast majority of those that come for help in PMO recovery, don’t recover. Those that have found freedom are in the minority. I’m just making an honest observation. I wish it was different. And I think it can. I just think we have a lot more to learn about PMO recovery.
1 Like
And I think it’s kind of funny that you found that’s the case because I’ve found the opposite in my therapy and Coach programs where 90% recover and 10% don’t and it’s usually because they leave the program before it’s finished.
Honestly that’s been a big driving force for me to keep going because I really believe that I can quit for good as long as I keep trying and working towards it and that I won’t be part of your 90% who never end up beating this.
Much to reflect on here 
Edit: may also be the fact that I am only looking at 3 years and not 30 
3 Likes
One of the main reasons why I love TS so much is that there’s so much victory and recovery. People are embracing and enjoying sobriety. Very positive and very uplifting. And I found that the people that didn’t give up. Even if they fell a whole bunch of times. After time, many of these people got better. That’s really encouraging. And that’s not something I saw a whole lot of before. I’ve witnessed a lot of chronic relapsing. And I became one of those chronic relapsers. 20, 25, 30 years ago, I wish I knew then what I know now.
3 Likes
Hi. I don’t use the journal on the app but I do journal about my recovery with pen and paper. I’m old school LOL.
1 Like
Yes, I do the journal. Seems to help for me at least, I like checking in with it every day.
1 Like
Day 7 ending after being sober/clean 31 days. Although the odds I feel motivated
2 Likes
I relapsed thrice today.
2 Likes
Keep going and don’t give up. You got this and be encouraged.
2 Likes
Can you identify the mindset you’re in when you relapse?
Do you have any other tools besides this forum?
What are you doing in general, on daily basis, to maintain your sobriety and deepening your recovery?
Just some food for thought.
1 Like
What have you learned from this experience so far?
1 Like
I’m in a lot of pain right now. Could’ve spent my day pain free. I would be sleeping right now. If i didn’t watch orn.
Boy do I hear that. Was there 3 weeks ago, that was my last reset and it basically went just like that. What’s the story with your pain situation if you don’t mind me asking?
It really hurts when I have to pee. Can’t empty my bladder. Have to pee frequently. But not much urine comes out.
I know that sensation, never really figured it out it just seemed to come and go sometimes. Do you know why you’re having this experience?
I have skin disease called epidermolysis bullosa. My skin is really sensitive everywhere.
Jumping Jesus, that is a heavy cross to bare. I’d think that would deter PMO but I also know when I had epididymitis for about 6 weeks it was not so easy to just resist. Good luck man, start preparing for tomorrow’s challenges today.
1 Like
Just completed day 1 of nofap.
2 Likes
It’s only ever one day at a time.
Just stay sober today.
Don’t worry about tomorrow.
Just today.
2 Likes
Completed 2 days of nofap.
3 Likes
Had a dream I relapsed and there was this thought in my dream mind “just look at it all more while you can, it all counts the same right now so just make a break for it”. I really believe relapses are like jail break moments, that sub personality wants you to not only use but nourish the circuits that give it life as much as possible so it can’t be caged anymore. It might even be why mental relapses are something to be weary of because you definitely don’t want to nourish those Neuro circuits just by thinking about relapsing either, do that a hundred times and you might find yourself feeling like you’re a remote controlled car for some other force. At least that’s how I’ve felt. I was pleased to know when I woke up that I didn’t actually do anything, very grateful for that.
4 Likes