You want to see a proper rant just get me going on that lol
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She’s a hell of a marketer, that’s what she did before her book.
The whole blaming alcohol thing is funny to me. If I had a nickel for every time alcohol jumped into my throat by itself, I’d still have 0 dollars.
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Yeah, but have you ever had a crack pipe chase you down the street?
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No sir. Just crack heads.
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They are quick.
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If you are talking about me, you are 100% wrong. I flagged you as it was off topic and I wanted to stop the back and forth that you and Derek sometimes engage in that leads to derailment.
Am I consistent with off topic flags, nope. But when they are blatant, I do flag them.
I don’t have an issue with you as a male or person at all. I do often get annoyed AF with Derek, but as he knows, I cut him slack, a lot. And I get A LOT of grief for that as well.
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Geez, Derek! Why cant you just focus on one thing at a time!?
I definitely do know. But I also don’t really violate community standards. I’d be gone by now if I did. Pain in the ass that I am. I’m here to work on my sobriety and pass along what I know in the way it was given to me. Sobriety didn’t turn me in to a peace loving hippie. I will still absolutely challenge ideas that can potentially be harmful and I will be unapologetic about it.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, that doesn’t mean they are entitled to not be challenged about it
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Agreed! I appreciate your input often, you are very knowledgeable and helpful for so many. I also appreciate your willingness to work with us.
I too am just trying to stay sober. I was always a peace loving hippie…shit, I grew up in the 60s! One part of myself I always loved.
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We like to keep things spicy
It’s an old dance we have been perfecting for years.
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You’re a good dance partner 
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Haha, don’t take the piss!
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I really think that accountability is important. We remain sobriety with the ‘intention’ of not relapsing. It is like oh I am going to sober up but there’s room for relapse possibly leaves a denotation that the commitment really isn’t concrete.
Yes if you do relapse it’s a learning experience and we go back to it.
No matter how fucking hard it is. We are dealing with trauma which is harder and scarier. This is just scary. Sobering up our emotions. The emptiness. The loneliness. The trauma. The void. The ‘self.’ Who are we? What have we experienced? When will we stop to truly be felt? Perhaps we never felt.
So many deeper sense of the healing and recovery.
Doesn’t mean we don’t have to practice every single day or maybe even every single moment.
It’s a life change, mind change, a behavior change - it’s reinventing who you are as what you would like to be and not the drug of choice that changes you into something you are not.
That’s what I have gained from this thread.
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Sexy spicy lol
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