Unfortunately that is the ONE downside of my Mirena. I can’t use my cycle to figure out where I’m at wrt menopause. I get semi-regular blood tests which all seem okay but I do get some symptoms that are confusing. 
Sage is well known for it’s benefits and safe to use. Then there is red clover, rasberry leaves and lady’s mantle, among others. Where I live, they are easy to pick and use for free. Vogel sells vitex Angus castus (chaste berry) tincture. I have it on trial right now.
Always check the possible contraindications with medicines.
Also recommended are supplements like calcium, potassium, vitamins B (especially B6).
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Thankyou so much what do you do with the sage do you drink it or eat with it etc I’d rather go totally natural. I also use garlic grated up every morning not a nice taste or smell but I put it at back of tounge and swallow with water once I’ve washed hands and brush teeth you wouldn’t know I’ve taken it.
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You can drink it as tee, use it in cooking or let the leaves dry and grind it into a herbal powder to mix with yogurt, smoothie etc. Garlic sure is good for your immunity and keeping vampires at bay 
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Thanks for the info @Olivia I’m considering IUD because of my low ferritine and menorrhagia. Sick and tired of being tired all my life. But also afraid of side effects and especially the procedure. I once had the copper thing for contraception purposes and almost fainted during the insert. And bled like an elephant 
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Since being on my new antidepressant medication I have noticed a real change in mood around my period. Mainly depression symptoms. Unfortunately my cycle seems to have settled on 22 days but still, one week out of three feeling off is better than all the time 
I was on the depo injection from a teenager to a couple of years ago so didn’t have periods for most of my adult life or the mood swings that go with it. Keeping track of the dates has really helped me understand it and go with it.
I’ve had a few tests for thyroid and anemia issues over the years as my mum has issues with that and I had gone to the doctors with tiredness etc. Always came back clear - in hindsight probably just depression. Fun fact, the first time I got tested for thyroid stuff the GP said my neck looked a bit swollen. Turned out it was just fat 
I also wonder how much hormones have contributed to my mental health, the current meds I am on are an SNRI and I think the N is something to do with hormones. Anyway that’s just me being an armchair doctor but it does seem to have made a decent difference so far.
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Sounds like you had a botch doc inserting it… 
I took a hefty dose of OTC painmeds before I went bc my doc had advised so. I’m a pussy regarding pain anyway (pun intended). It wasn’t sharp pain but more like pressure pain. Really uncomfortable but definitely tolerable. I didn’t bleed, and if I did it was hardly anything. I had side effects for the first week until my natural period started. Cramping and diarrhea from noon till evening, but nothing worse than what I’d had before. After that initial week, no side effects. I know it’s individual.
I think they sell Mirena with higher and lower dose over here. I have the higher dose.
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🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
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Thanks for starting this thread, I always tried to get sober once I’d come on,the week previous would be the worst binge of the month, drinking to over excess of what I would ‘normally’, and that was still excessive… I used Clue before, great app,I’m confused that HPV is named as a disease??..it lives with us normally,as with many others,. I’ve had a couple of loops done tho…one affected me emotionally, and the second was an absolute joke, where students were in the room, yes I agreed but what do you do when you’re in that position,yes literally, and you just want things to be over,so agreeing might get it over quicker, except they couldn’t find my cervix , so I had to go back on another day and had a very rapid appointment with a very experienced doctor,and no students. I wil not put my myself through those sorts of experiences again 
I won’t be going back for a smear now (I’m 41), I don’t trust the medical establishment and it’s a money making scheme, that is just my personal opinion from research and reading, and from a family situation where they took out a womb for no good reason from my younger sister.
Astragalus, is for HPV, to stop it going bonkers…
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Oh no, I was unclear. I meant that I bled like Niagara afterwards, during my periods.
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I have a joke with the ladies at work and say period pains, the menopause and hormones are just a myth when they blame their awful mood on one of those things.
I say that men only get one weeks Grace a month as it’s either
- a week before my period
- a week during my period
- a week after my period
I don’t actually mean it but I get a bite every time 
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I am on a three week cycle so no grace period for my bf 
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Awwwww no 
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That is so true @DarrenUK 
, but also a sign of imbalance. Women shouldn’t suffer for extreme pain, menorrhagia, pms or pmdd, but it’s like epidemic. Has to do with our lifestyle, the junk we eat and chemicals around us if you ask me (and also if you don’t) 
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I had the most hurredous time with coil, it was the non hormone one but it changed me I was bloated all the time and I had to have it removed BC it Inbedded into me my body was trying to reject it never ever again. Worst experience ever. I can’t not have a period so injection wouldn’t be no good I need to bleed if I had all the symptoms then didn’t get the chance to bleed I’d go insane we were made to bleed so my personal view is that I’m not gona stop my body doing something it naturally wants to do.
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It’s grace that you don’t need to deal with this shit AT ALL personally. Grace from your first breath to your last. Remember that son 
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Yikes. I’ve never been a heavy bleeder. Sometimes I think it’s ridiculous how much pain and hassle I go through with so little to “show” 
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I had this trial of taking the pill only to get it regularly or not at all. I think I tried to take it trough as I was hoping to avoid glycemia roller-coaster which occurs and is so frustrating I could cry sometimes. But it didn’t change much and I didn’t want to add any external hormones. Since some months it’s more regularly and I know that one week before insulin resistance starts and one day before or on the day it drops. I need fucking predictability. 
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I have to find a gyno. Since we moved I haven’t found one. I just started for the 2 time this month. Is it crazy to see about having all my shit taken out? I don’t want kids because they get a 50/50 shot of having HAE and because of my hereditary condition (HAE) it was recommended I don’t even get pregnant because I could die. I know I should ask the doctors advice and I will. I guess I’m just wondering if anyone can tell me how they felt after a hysterectomy
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I appreciate this topic.
I think my mood swings are at least partially masked by the fact that I’m usually short tempered and irritable, it’s my norm. 
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