Are you referring to the phrase meeting makers make it? All meeting makers make is meetings. For me the program is in the 12 steps. I don’t need a meeting everyday because I have my big book and the steps.
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Yes and thankyou very much it’s about living the steps in your day to day life not getting to as many meetings as possible
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The saying went 3 meetings winner 2 meetings good luck 1 meeting goodbye or along them lines I said I thought it was disrespectful as ppl sometimes can only get to one and ate fine that got flagged by many and taken down,
oh well
have to agree with that
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I agree with you.
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She is not pulling your leg. You missed some stuff.
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Ah sorry @Lilemm @Fargesia_murielae I didn’t know the guy had been an idiot like that, I actually deleted my comment either after I posted it as I decided it best not to get involved
I didn’t know he had spoken to any of you like that . I’m gutted that I stuck up for him cos he didn’t deserve it. Sorry
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No worries my friend,I only put that I felt the saying was disrespectful that’s it??? The funny thing is I put about AA N NA HAVING NATZI,S which they do ALL DO but that one stayed up??? Nobody flagged that one he said he got the saying from a man that was 55 years clean but it doesn’t give AA OR NA or any A a great name when you put one meeting goodbye I know it’s only a saying but it’s a SHIT saying JYST SAYING:rofl:
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I missed it all again.
I must admit, I’d have been With @Lilemm on this. Doesn’t paint AA in a very good light does it.
Bit elitism for my liking.
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None of your posts were deleted. One is on the original thread, the others are here.
The rude posts were deleted by the OP so shall we all move on from that and refrain from having public personal discussions about other users?
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I enjoy my meetings. I like seeing my friends. I get a lot out of meetings. I plan on going to meetings th rest of my life. Buuuut. If I still need a meeting every day at 55 years sober I’m going to be asking a lot of people where I went wrong.
One of my favorite sayings. AA is for people who want it, not people who need it. I will continue to go because I want to.
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Hi Andre, I am writing to lend a voice here just cautioning about where we assign blame / problem-causing - or where we seem to be assigning it - so that we can be sure women are safe in this space.
It’s entirely possible you may have meant something different, of course. If so you’re welcome to clarify and I’ll be happy to hear it 
Reading the back and forth here, your language (for both women and men) was objectifying, and therefore both misogynistic and misandric.
(You make the same statement about “a man”.)
Women are not like undercooked potatoes that give you indigestion. When I have indigestion, it’s because of the undercooked potatoes. (It’s an object. Objects get in the way sometimes. We have to remove them, or fix them. The phrasing here - getting away from “the ups and downs of a woman” - positions the woman, grammatically, as the object. Like the potato.) When I have a web of negative emotions arising from my addictive behaviour, running from my life for years and years, I have a web of negative emotions arising from my behaviour. The ups and downs do not come from the woman. The ups and downs come from my unhealthy behaviours. It may be that I need to physically move myself to a new place. But the reason I do that is not because of the woman. It’s because of my imbalanced habits and behaviours. (The object - the problem - is the behaviours.)
It’s important to phrase things so the men and women we’re discussing are never assigned to object status, because that dehumanizes them and removes them from consideration as legitimate people with minds and goals and equally legitimate experiences of their own.
As I said you may have meant to phrase things in another way - which I would completely understand; it happens to all of us. Lord knows I’ve grappled with phrasing things in my own experience too 
Take care brother
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I hear you. Lots to unpack there. If you’d like to continue the conversation with me please message me privately and we can talk (out of respect for the OP because we want to give him his space for his questions).
Take care, peace, and I hope your meditation is helpful
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You are supposed to say that the problem exists not because of other people - whether they’re women or men - but because, ultimately, we’re responsible for ourselves. Any responsibility (blame) for our problems, and any power to change our lives, lies ultimately with us. We have the power to change.
I’m not offended. But her behaviour does not ruin a man. His behaviour does. And that’s his true power: by changing his behaviour, he becomes a better man, and has a better life.
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Greta Thunberg is an admired environmental rights activist and only 17 years old. How will she feel when she sees this needlessly immature and cruel meme which is no doubt being circulated around the world by people who somehow think this is funny?
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The price of fame = memes
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Others may percieve her as an over opinionated teenager, who went viral.
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To be fair, I laugh at the face made, not the person making the face… Could have been Jeff Bezos or some random child and it’d still give me a chuckle… but that’s just me.
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